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<blockquote data-quote="LarryBird" data-source="post: 4113611" data-attributes="member: 76548"><p>If it is one of the designated training routes, and not a specific trip they're gonna qualify you on, then they're usually pretty nice. An hour or two of commercial stops in the morning, by 12:30 they're in a residential development or somewhere else that you can fly, once you know the area. No large pickups, maybe 2 or 3 cupcakes, and no air to bring back.</p><p></p><p>That's the tradeoff of these trips - guys who bid them get an easier, low pressure route, but they have to move off for guys to train and qualify on.</p><p></p><p>The guys who have been on the bid training trips never bid off, put it that way. They've been on them forever, and the only way they'd leave is if someone higher bumped them, or one of the 2 or 3 "dream trips" that every center has opens up.</p><p></p><p>You can tell which trips are the 'dream trips', by the age of the guy on them - it will never dip below early 50's...the seniority of the guys on them - always top 5 in the building, employed by UPS longer than new drivers have been alive...and lastly, the fact that the trips never truly come up for bid - rather they're passed along, like gifts of fine wine or gold watches, by one outgoing senior driver to the new incoming senior man about center, as a status symbol...bid route bling, if you will - "Hey, look at Old Man LarryBird with the hot new route, with the brand new Workhorse 500 package car...<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />ing route only does 75 stops - sure it's a 190 miles, but it's all country road riding time, with like a few dozen errands to run throughout the day - he's got it made, the lucky old grey haired <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />er". Kinda like that. Some variation of it.</p><p></p><p>I digressed there for a paragraph, or so. What I'm basically saying is, if it's training trip, enjoy it while you can. It won't get any better than that at UPS for you, for a long long time. Maybe if you're lucky, you'll cover one of the 'dream trips' and get a small taste of the good delivery life once in a while, but don't get your hopes up.</p><p></p><p>I've learned over an almost 20 year career at UPS, to expect the worst, than you'll only be slightly disappointed when it's so much <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />tier than you ever could have imagined. Getting your hopes up for good things and nice situations at UPS, well I certainly wouldn't recommend it, and I really wouldn't even want to imagine the levels of devastation one would be setting themselves up to endure - it would take a serious masochist to play that mind game UPS calls hope and hop on the their merry-go-round of horrors for a second ride down the highway to hell-town via hope.</p><p></p><p>Here are some things you can expect as a new driver as you progress through your cover years:</p><p></p><p>Expect <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />ty work conditions - if it's 95°, -5°, raining heavy, snowing, extremely busy, the day before or after a holiday, or a day you needed off(expect the unexpected), you are working...these are your days to shine.</p><p></p><p>Expect <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />ty runs/cover routes.</p><p></p><p>Expect the <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />ty equipment - new trucks are not on splits.</p><p></p><p>Expect <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />ty dispatches - you will be running trips that dispatch threw together at 30 mins before start time by taking 30 stops from this trip, and 25 from that truck, 12 here, and 40 from there: like a salad. So we call them salad trips in my building. Hope you like salad. As a cover, you will eventually be eating it everyday as your area knowledge expands.</p><p></p><p>Expect this to go on for an unbearably long time - the money will help. Once you get to top rate, your ability to tolerate the life of a UPS cover driver will have reached maturity...you will be there 4 years and in the swing of it, and you will now have a $70k per year PT job, with the smell of a FT bid in practically filling your nostrils. </p><p></p><p>If you've made it this far - Congrats. You are a lifer. UPSer forever...</p><p></p><p>You probably only have 3 to 5 more years before you are actually a FT driver - it's quicker than it used to be. Don't fret and be a bitch - we all went through it. We're sort of happy?. We're glad we stuck it out?.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LarryBird, post: 4113611, member: 76548"] If it is one of the designated training routes, and not a specific trip they're gonna qualify you on, then they're usually pretty nice. An hour or two of commercial stops in the morning, by 12:30 they're in a residential development or somewhere else that you can fly, once you know the area. No large pickups, maybe 2 or 3 cupcakes, and no air to bring back. That's the tradeoff of these trips - guys who bid them get an easier, low pressure route, but they have to move off for guys to train and qualify on. The guys who have been on the bid training trips never bid off, put it that way. They've been on them forever, and the only way they'd leave is if someone higher bumped them, or one of the 2 or 3 "dream trips" that every center has opens up. You can tell which trips are the 'dream trips', by the age of the guy on them - it will never dip below early 50's...the seniority of the guys on them - always top 5 in the building, employed by UPS longer than new drivers have been alive...and lastly, the fact that the trips never truly come up for bid - rather they're passed along, like gifts of fine wine or gold watches, by one outgoing senior driver to the new incoming senior man about center, as a status symbol...bid route bling, if you will - "Hey, look at Old Man LarryBird with the hot new route, with the brand new Workhorse 500 package car...:censored:ing route only does 75 stops - sure it's a 190 miles, but it's all country road riding time, with like a few dozen errands to run throughout the day - he's got it made, the lucky old grey haired :censored:er". Kinda like that. Some variation of it. I digressed there for a paragraph, or so. What I'm basically saying is, if it's training trip, enjoy it while you can. It won't get any better than that at UPS for you, for a long long time. Maybe if you're lucky, you'll cover one of the 'dream trips' and get a small taste of the good delivery life once in a while, but don't get your hopes up. I've learned over an almost 20 year career at UPS, to expect the worst, than you'll only be slightly disappointed when it's so much :censored:tier than you ever could have imagined. Getting your hopes up for good things and nice situations at UPS, well I certainly wouldn't recommend it, and I really wouldn't even want to imagine the levels of devastation one would be setting themselves up to endure - it would take a serious masochist to play that mind game UPS calls hope and hop on the their merry-go-round of horrors for a second ride down the highway to hell-town via hope. Here are some things you can expect as a new driver as you progress through your cover years: Expect :censored:ty work conditions - if it's 95°, -5°, raining heavy, snowing, extremely busy, the day before or after a holiday, or a day you needed off(expect the unexpected), you are working...these are your days to shine. Expect :censored:ty runs/cover routes. Expect the :censored:ty equipment - new trucks are not on splits. Expect :censored:ty dispatches - you will be running trips that dispatch threw together at 30 mins before start time by taking 30 stops from this trip, and 25 from that truck, 12 here, and 40 from there: like a salad. So we call them salad trips in my building. Hope you like salad. As a cover, you will eventually be eating it everyday as your area knowledge expands. Expect this to go on for an unbearably long time - the money will help. Once you get to top rate, your ability to tolerate the life of a UPS cover driver will have reached maturity...you will be there 4 years and in the swing of it, and you will now have a $70k per year PT job, with the smell of a FT bid in practically filling your nostrils. If you've made it this far - Congrats. You are a lifer. UPSer forever... You probably only have 3 to 5 more years before you are actually a FT driver - it's quicker than it used to be. Don't fret and be a bitch - we all went through it. We're sort of happy?. We're glad we stuck it out?. [/QUOTE]
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