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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5895441" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>This whole argument of yours is to go after me personally. What you aren't telling us is that the hospital system that performed the double bypass is a nonprofit. Thus they can charge a bit extra on every insured patient to cover the non insured. Not charge exorbitant amounts to pad profits. What you aren't saying is most working class people if they aren't working don't have insurance. You want to say I didn't take care of business personally but I'm in the same boat as everyone else. What you don't say is that hospitals charge insurance companies a lot less than what they charge people who self insure or don't have insurance. My stent in 2011 cost over $50k but ultimately they charged my company insurance $16k and me $1600. I was told the reason why is they have pre negotiated amounts they charge insurance companies. So you railing that the taxpayer was on the hook for over $100k for my double bypass isn't correct, not by a long shot. Nor are the insured paying for over $100k. Once again either you are uninformed or you're just making stuff up. Meanwhile we know for a fact that individuals making up to $125k or couples making up to $250k are fine in your book to have the taxpayer pay off their student loan debt. $34 trillion in debt and counting and yet you are fine with buying votes with our tax dollars. You don't want to see our government cut back on anything because spending is power and nothing is more important to you than controlling.everyone else with the money. In effect you're just another angry Karen sticking her nose in where it doesn't belong. And always getting it wrong.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5895441, member: 24302"] This whole argument of yours is to go after me personally. What you aren't telling us is that the hospital system that performed the double bypass is a nonprofit. Thus they can charge a bit extra on every insured patient to cover the non insured. Not charge exorbitant amounts to pad profits. What you aren't saying is most working class people if they aren't working don't have insurance. You want to say I didn't take care of business personally but I'm in the same boat as everyone else. What you don't say is that hospitals charge insurance companies a lot less than what they charge people who self insure or don't have insurance. My stent in 2011 cost over $50k but ultimately they charged my company insurance $16k and me $1600. I was told the reason why is they have pre negotiated amounts they charge insurance companies. So you railing that the taxpayer was on the hook for over $100k for my double bypass isn't correct, not by a long shot. Nor are the insured paying for over $100k. Once again either you are uninformed or you're just making stuff up. Meanwhile we know for a fact that individuals making up to $125k or couples making up to $250k are fine in your book to have the taxpayer pay off their student loan debt. $34 trillion in debt and counting and yet you are fine with buying votes with our tax dollars. You don't want to see our government cut back on anything because spending is power and nothing is more important to you than controlling.everyone else with the money. In effect you're just another angry Karen sticking her nose in where it doesn't belong. And always getting it wrong. [/QUOTE]
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