Ðid the Good Weather problem kill the auto industry?

MORS HOSTIBUS

MORS HOSTIBUS

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Auto sales are tanking and so is quality. The great reset has arrived for auto manufacturing. Even Toyota and Honda's new "smaller is better" turbo engines will not outlive their predecessors. So much for believing people with fancy degrees and titles are smart.
I said 25 years ago that the neo con capitalist wet dream is a Chinese style economy. Freaking Globalist did one better, they were aiming for the Cuban model.
 
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MORS HOSTIBUS

MORS HOSTIBUS

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As sophistication increases cost and quality suffers. Good design is a simple design. My bare bones brand new 1990 honda civic was purchased for $6700. Got 42 mpg on the highway with it. Tell me the big 3 couldn't build that car again. Your wall street banker buddies don't have the incentive to do it. If you want an American manufacturing revolution start reducing regulatory fiction. The sun isn't getting any hotter.
 
Just A UPS Guy

Just A UPS Guy

Bully.
MORS HOSTIBUS said:
As sophistication increases cost and quality suffers. Good design is a simple design. My bare bones brand new 1990 honda civic was purchased for $6700. Got 42 mpg on the highway with it. Tell me the big 3 couldn't build that car again. Your wall street banker buddies don't have the incentive to do it. If you want an American manufacturing revolution start reducing regulatory fiction. The sun isn't getting any hotter.
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This is more in line with reality, but newer engines will easily live longer. Cost/regulation/tech/etc. will be the demise.
 
DriveInDriveOut

DriveInDriveOut

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MORS HOSTIBUS said:
As sophistication increases cost and quality suffers. Good design is a simple design. My bare bones brand new 1990 honda civic was purchased for $6700. Got 42 mpg on the highway with it. Tell me the big 3 couldn't build that car again. Your wall street banker buddies don't have the incentive to do it. If you want an American manufacturing revolution start reducing regulatory fiction. The sun isn't getting any hotter.
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Sure but we need 42 airbags in every car now. Plus blind spot warnings, forward collision alerts, etc. etc....

Safety doesn't come cheap.
 
MORS HOSTIBUS

MORS HOSTIBUS

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EV's are dead. No infrastructure and not enough electricity. Biden dropped a green turd and woke globalist executive boards signed off on it.
P Diddy economics, *.
 
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rickyb

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MORS HOSTIBUS said:
Auto sales are tanking and so is quality. The great reset has arrived for auto manufacturing. Even Toyota and Honda's new "smaller is better" turbo engines will not outlive their predecessors. So much for believing people with fancy degrees and titles are smart.
I said 25 years ago that the neo con capitalist wet dream is a Chinese style economy. Freaking Globalist did one better, they were aiming for the Cuban model.
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toyota quality is falling, nissans fell long ago, hondas is falling, and yet cars are lasting longer.
 
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rickyb

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MORS HOSTIBUS said:
EV's are dead. No infrastructure and not enough electricity. Biden dropped a green turd and woke globalist executive boards signed off on it.
P Diddy economics, *.
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im thinking about buying a 2019 nissan leaf to sleep in after night shifts. it gets either 240 or 340 km per charge and its just a little more than my sporty mazda gas car. plus its a hatch.
 
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Babagounj

Babagounj

Strength through joy
rickyb said:
toyota quality is falling, nissans fell long ago, hondas is falling, and yet cars are lasting longer.
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Toyota "mistake" was putting the turbo boosted 4 cylinder in the Tacoma.
I say "mistake" because It might have been part of the plan to not have the engines last forever.
I still drive an 2008 4 cylinder 2.7 and except for some dings and rust , it runs fine. { only 110,000 miles }
Having a few long lasting vehicles is good PR, but having a fleet's worth does really hurts new vehicle sales.

Chrysler is down to producing only a handful of vehicles, Jeeps are filled with engine and electrical issues, Nissan is running out of working capital to stay a float, and without gov't support most EV companies will fold.

Soon we will be back to Henry Ford's options; you can request a vehicle in any color, but I only sell them in black.
 
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rickyb

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Babagounj said:
Toyota "mistake" was putting the turbo boosted 4 cylinder in the Tacoma.
I say "mistake" because It might have been part of the plan to not have the engines last forever.
I still drive an 2008 4 cylinder 2.7 and except for some dings and rust , it runs fine. { only 110,000 miles }
Having a few long lasting vehicles is good PR, but having a fleet's worth does really hurts new vehicle sales.

Chrysler is down to producing only a handful of vehicles, Jeeps are filled with engine and electrical issues, Nissan is running out of working capital to stay a float, and without gov't support most EV companies will fold.

Soon we will be back to Henry Ford's options; you can request a vehicle in any color, but I only sell them in black.
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i hope they bring back physical controls at least

chrysler and jeep are some of hte most unreliable companies.

tacomas are overrated these days. since 2005 they have lots of problems besides maybe being reliable.
 
Wally

Wally

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MORS HOSTIBUS said:
As sophistication increases cost and quality suffers. Good design is a simple design. My bare bones brand new 1990 honda civic was purchased for $6700. Got 42 mpg on the highway with it. Tell me the big 3 couldn't build that car again. Your wall street banker buddies don't have the incentive to do it. If you want an American manufacturing revolution start reducing regulatory fiction. The sun isn't getting any hotter.
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MPG was better because the car was lighter. Government safty regulations and CAFE standards has consequences.
 
Wally

Wally

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MORS HOSTIBUS said:
Yeah my ford engineering bud said the customer wants all the bells and whistles which add about 1000 lbs to the car.
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Chevy sold those Metro's back in the 80's that got 40 plus mpg. The car only weighed around 1700 pounds. Most cars now start around 3000 pounds.
 
oldngray

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vantexan said:
I had an '85 Ford Escort. It was a tin can. Got broadsided by a Toyota Supra. The Supra had a cracked headlight but my Escort looked like it got hit by a tank.
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A lot of those little cars in the 1980's were death traps. But did get good gas mileage with fairly crude engines.
 
Babagounj

Babagounj

Strength through joy
vantexan said:
I had an '85 Ford Escort. It was a tin can. Got broadsided by a Toyota Supra. The Supra had a cracked headlight but my Escort looked like it got hit by a tank.
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I had a 81 Escort, that model had an engine issue.
Once the timing belt broke the engine was useless.
 
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