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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JJinVA" data-source="post: 4665208" data-attributes="member: 80301">Maybe not. But some things dont really need statistics for the ramifications to be understood. If murder was legal, would you restrain yourself on moral grounds or act on it? Florida's "stand your ground" law shows that when given the ability to shoot, people will. In other states where the criminals are treated like victims, people are hesitant to shoot. Buddy of mine had someone break in his house at 11pm, dressed in all black with a ski mask on. He unloaded a clip on him, killed him, and got sent to the penn for 7 years for murder. Courts said it was an unreasonable amount of force... do you think he will ever do that again if someone breaks in his house?Laws and consequences go hand in hand in decision-making.</blockquote>