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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1148765" data-attributes="member: 17969">Ok, lets make it &quot;real&quot;.&nbsp; First, I am a dues paying member ( like you are) and I am not on the negotiation committee so I cannot make you a promise about contractual issues.&nbsp; What I can promise you however, is the following:First,&nbsp; &quot;I&quot; promise to stand by you and my fellow brothers and sisters to hold the company and union accountable for negotiating a &quot;fair&quot; and equitable contract that we can live with for 5 years.&nbsp; If you are willing to make the sacrifice with those members who do not like the conditions of this contract, then I can promise you that we will convince &quot;our&quot; local officers to represent our interests before &quot;their&quot; own.&quot;I&quot; can promise you that together, we can have our message heard and understood and FORCE the Union to go back and get TOUGH instead of weak.&nbsp; &quot;I&quot; can promise you that collectively, we can convince the company, whether by striking them or submitting a counter offer that best represents our interests in the future.&quot;I&quot; can promise you that I will &quot;feel&quot; the &quot;pain&quot; as you will if volume drops and people are layed off.&nbsp; &nbsp; &quot;I&quot; can promise you that &quot;I&quot; will help out my brothers and sisters closest to me that become financially troubled with a work stoppage by getting them jobs elsewhere.HOWEVER, &nbsp;&quot;I&quot; can GUARANTEE you that if this contract is ratified in its current condition, then &quot;I&quot; will personally campaign against the current administration and hold them accountable for the contract.&nbsp; In the last 8 years, a few have tried to run against the current local officers and failed.&nbsp; The reasons are simple.&nbsp; The members really didnt have a reason to make a change.&nbsp; No matter what was said, it wasnt enough to justify removing our local officers.Next time around, there WILL BE a legitimate reason to remove them ALL.&nbsp; It wont take a rocket scientist to figure out how to run against them.&nbsp; Starting January 1st 2014, EVERYONE will be affected by the C6 plan and expenditures will begin in the same month.&nbsp; By the time the election rolls around, some members will have spent ALOT more money than they ever have on medical costs and those people are going to be pissed.IF you look at just numbers (and i have predicted accurately the last three elections in our local)&nbsp; Ron H is going to be in real trouble.&nbsp; Shaking hands , smiles, hats and shirts wont be enough to save his tenure.Since he first won office, every election he has LOST votes.&nbsp; From over 2750 until now, 1950, he has lost almost 1000 votes. On the other hand, his opposition has GAINED votes over that same time period.&nbsp; The consistent &quot;dissent&quot; vote is now averaging 900 votes.&nbsp; So, lets do the math.1950 minus 900 is 1050.&nbsp; Now, you factor in all the disgruntled rubbish employees who have attempted to de certify local 396, and an opponent can gain 400 votes.&nbsp; That takes Ron down to 1550 and the &quot;dissent&quot; votes to 1300.&nbsp; The difference at that point is 250.&nbsp; &nbsp; 250 votes in a huge local.&nbsp; Now, factor in 7000 angry UPS teamsters and estimate that 50% will actually vote and that represents 3500 votes.&nbsp; If those 3500 votes want to hold the local responsible for the contract and can be reminded for the whole year how they got into this mess, then what will happen to Ron H?An election always comes down to &quot;what have you done for me lately&quot;.&nbsp; And with this contract, 7000 UPS teamsters will have their answer to that question.&nbsp; When Ron H won office, Danny Bruno was in the same mess.&nbsp; Danny won office with a large margin, then screwed the members with bad decisions and poor representation.At the time, the membership held Danny B. Responsible for ALL their troubles in the yards and they voted him out.&nbsp; Danny B. recieved less than 400 votes when he lost office.Once the membership speaks, and the local doesnt respond, then that same membership will speak with their vote.&nbsp; Ron H is in that boat at the moment, and its clear at this point, that his loyalty is with the brass of the Teamsters and not with the membership.&nbsp; Many upon many members have told Ron that they do not like the contract or its impact on insurance, yet RON has done nothing to stand out from the Teamster brass to protect us in local 396.Ron has simply gone along with the program as our benefits are systematically destroyed.&nbsp; Theres an old saying that applies at the moment Brother Brown, &quot;UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL&quot;.The union has divided us and all that is left is to hit the ground.That &quot;I&quot; promise you.PeaceTOS</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1148765, member: 17969"] Ok, lets make it "real". First, I am a dues paying member ( like you are) and I am not on the negotiation committee so I cannot make you a promise about contractual issues. What I can promise you however, is the following: First, "I" promise to stand by you and my fellow brothers and sisters to hold the company and union accountable for negotiating a "fair" and equitable contract that we can live with for 5 years. If you are willing to make the sacrifice with those members who do not like the conditions of this contract, then I can promise you that we will convince "our" local officers to represent our interests before "their" own. "I" can promise you that together, we can have our message heard and understood and FORCE the Union to go back and get TOUGH instead of weak. "I" can promise you that collectively, we can convince the company, whether by striking them or submitting a counter offer that best represents our interests in the future. "I" can promise you that I will "feel" the "pain" as you will if volume drops and people are layed off. "I" can promise you that "I" will help out my brothers and sisters closest to me that become financially troubled with a work stoppage by getting them jobs elsewhere. HOWEVER, "I" can [B]GUARANTEE[/B] you that if this contract is ratified in its current condition, then "I" will personally campaign against the current administration and hold them accountable for the contract. In the last 8 years, a few have tried to run against the current local officers and failed. The reasons are simple. The members really didnt have a reason to make a change. No matter what was said, it wasnt enough to justify removing our local officers. Next time around, there WILL BE a legitimate reason to remove them ALL. It wont take a rocket scientist to figure out how to run against them. Starting January 1st 2014, EVERYONE will be affected by the C6 plan and expenditures will begin in the same month. By the time the election rolls around, some members will have spent ALOT more money than they ever have on medical costs and those people are going to be pissed. IF you look at just numbers (and i have predicted accurately the last three elections in our local) Ron H is going to be in real trouble. Shaking hands , smiles, hats and shirts wont be enough to save his tenure. Since he first won office, every election he has LOST votes. From over 2750 until now, 1950, he has lost almost 1000 votes. On the other hand, his opposition has GAINED votes over that same time period. The consistent "dissent" vote is now averaging 900 votes. So, lets do the math. 1950 minus 900 is 1050. Now, you factor in all the disgruntled rubbish employees who have attempted to de certify local 396, and an opponent can gain 400 votes. That takes Ron down to 1550 and the "dissent" votes to 1300. The difference at that point is 250. 250 votes in a huge local. Now, factor in 7000 angry UPS teamsters and estimate that 50% will actually vote and that represents 3500 votes. If those 3500 votes want to hold the local responsible for the contract and can be reminded for the whole year how they got into this mess, then what will happen to Ron H? An election always comes down to "what have you done for me lately". And with this contract, 7000 UPS teamsters will have their answer to that question. When Ron H won office, Danny Bruno was in the same mess. Danny won office with a large margin, then screwed the members with bad decisions and poor representation. At the time, the membership held Danny B. Responsible for ALL their troubles in the yards and they voted him out. Danny B. recieved less than 400 votes when he lost office. Once the membership speaks, and the local doesnt respond, then that same membership will speak with their vote. Ron H is in that boat at the moment, and its clear at this point, that his loyalty is with the brass of the Teamsters and not with the membership. Many upon many members have told Ron that they do not like the contract or its impact on insurance, yet RON has done nothing to stand out from the Teamster brass to protect us in local 396. Ron has simply gone along with the program as our benefits are systematically destroyed. Theres an old saying that applies at the moment Brother Brown, "UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL". The union has divided us and all that is left is to hit the ground. That "I" promise you. Peace TOS [/QUOTE]

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