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<blockquote data-quote="Bubblehead" data-source="post: 1281800" data-attributes="member: 14176">That was a very emotional and heartfelt reply that came woefully short of answering my question?Again, why would we want to dive into a plan that Hoffa himself has deemed unsustainable under the ACA?Secondly since you brought it up, why is it assumed and accepted that UPS supposedly said they weren&#039;t going to continue to provide health care plans in what were at the time &quot;negotiations&quot;?How was the company in the position to dictate anything in the wake of its annual string of record profits?Isn&#039;t it possible that this was just a cover story for the real agenda, one in which the Central States H&amp;W fund desperately needed to extend the life of its &quot;unsustainability&quot; with an infusion of new members?Isn&#039;t this well illustrated in the original offer of increasing annual deductibles in the plan that have been delayed now until year 5, in hopes of sliding it past the members before they realize what is going on?This desperate act is the only way I can find to explain all of the other concessions throughout the Master and supplements.I don&#039;t believe UPS cares one way or the other who handles the healthcare money.They just saw the IBT in a moment of weakness and exploited it as such.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bubblehead, post: 1281800, member: 14176"] That was a very emotional and heartfelt reply that came woefully short of answering my question? Again, why would we want to dive into a plan that Hoffa himself has deemed unsustainable under the ACA? Secondly since you brought it up, why is it assumed and accepted that UPS supposedly said they weren't going to continue to provide health care plans in what were at the time "negotiations"? How was the company in the position to dictate anything in the wake of its annual string of record profits? Isn't it possible that this was just a cover story for the real agenda, one in which the Central States H&W fund desperately needed to extend the life of its "unsustainability" with an infusion of new members? Isn't this well illustrated in the original offer of increasing annual deductibles in the plan that have been delayed now until year 5, in hopes of sliding it past the members before they realize what is going on? This desperate act is the only way I can find to explain all of the other concessions throughout the Master and supplements. I don't believe UPS cares one way or the other who handles the healthcare money. They just saw the IBT in a moment of weakness and exploited it as such. [/QUOTE]

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