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Message: <blockquote data-quote="falcon back" data-source="post: 4564208" data-attributes="member: 81520"><p>6% match or whatever the new plan is can be very lucrative.   People complain about the Portable and when the company suggests a plan that just might be better,   you complain about the loss of the Portable.    I believe the Traditional ended before 2008,  but I could be wrong.  I was long gone from it by then.   You mention a government job is needed to have a pension.   That is proof that if only the government can provide a pension,  economic conditions has made it necessary for most companies to end their programs.</p></blockquote><p></p>