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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 2991649" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>You make mgrs sound noble.  Some truly are, most aren't in my experience.  And it's not difficult to tell the difference.  They're in a system that demands results or you're gone.  The old adage about what rolls downhill truly applies.  The stress they're under comes out in very nasty ways at times.  I've known mgrs I'd go to war for.  But too many have the attitude "how's this going to affect me?"  A major reason I transferred so much.  When a mgr screwed me over or treated me like crap the only real power I had was to transfer.  And I admit I took real satisfaction in knowing that having to get that very heavy rt covered was going to cause him major headaches.  These guys don't appreciate what they had until they realize just how it will affect them.</p></blockquote><p></p>