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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 4125217" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>Hey amigo no I don't. All I've ever said is if you're able bodied you should work. And take responsibility for your own life. You constantly push this idea that government should supplement everything. Only thing is that supplementing, among other things, has us at $22 Trillion in debt and counting. When are you going to realize that servicing the debt over time is going to crowd out programs for people who really do need the help? And you need to realize also that the Dollars taken for SS 40 years ago were worth a lot more than they are now so it's not like I'm taking out a lot more than I ever put in after adjusting for inflation. And no one invests in anything expecting to take out exactly what they put in. Foolish to do so. And SS is a separate program anyways. And it's hilarious that you focus on my getting SS as somehow responsible for all it's woes. And for the millionth time I've said repeatedly that SS is the best program the Democrats have ever come up with. As I said earlier programs should help those in need, not able bodied people(other than temporary assistance until they can get another job). Guess who are people in need who can no longer work? Old people! Some like to attack them for not having prepared themselves. But the dirty little secret of capitalism is for some to do well, and others to do well enough, there has to be a massive underclass working for low wages. It's been my belief that if you pay someone barely enough to get by, and they and others are helping you get wealthy, the least you can do is contribute to their retirement through SS matching funds. A lot of business owners don't want to pay that. They're greedy. But on the other side it makes no sense you attacking anyone who is receiving SS. I have earned it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 4125217, member: 24302"] Hey amigo no I don't. All I've ever said is if you're able bodied you should work. And take responsibility for your own life. You constantly push this idea that government should supplement everything. Only thing is that supplementing, among other things, has us at $22 Trillion in debt and counting. When are you going to realize that servicing the debt over time is going to crowd out programs for people who really do need the help? And you need to realize also that the Dollars taken for SS 40 years ago were worth a lot more than they are now so it's not like I'm taking out a lot more than I ever put in after adjusting for inflation. And no one invests in anything expecting to take out exactly what they put in. Foolish to do so. And SS is a separate program anyways. And it's hilarious that you focus on my getting SS as somehow responsible for all it's woes. And for the millionth time I've said repeatedly that SS is the best program the Democrats have ever come up with. As I said earlier programs should help those in need, not able bodied people(other than temporary assistance until they can get another job). Guess who are people in need who can no longer work? Old people! Some like to attack them for not having prepared themselves. But the dirty little secret of capitalism is for some to do well, and others to do well enough, there has to be a massive underclass working for low wages. It's been my belief that if you pay someone barely enough to get by, and they and others are helping you get wealthy, the least you can do is contribute to their retirement through SS matching funds. A lot of business owners don't want to pay that. They're greedy. But on the other side it makes no sense you attacking anyone who is receiving SS. I have earned it. [/QUOTE]
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