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<blockquote data-quote="100%ORIONComplianceGuy" data-source="post: 5912343" data-attributes="member: 109837"><p>I’ve read it more times than many. It makes total sense that we are due penalty pay for anything over 9.5 hours for those two days. Only the company, and company men, think otherwise.</p><p></p><p>Just another example of weakness. Which is likely at play in this topic as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Because we allowed them to.</p><p></p><p>it says we can get penalty pay if worked over 9.5 hours two days in a week. Pretty easy to understand. also obvious to see that “excessive” is anything over 9.5.</p><p></p><p>I have been around a while. I don’t need to sit across the table from the company to know how they think. And just because that’s how they think doesn’t mean that is what should be accepted by those who are sitting on our side. </p><p></p><p>Nope. Never heard of it. Sounds like another example of weakness. Why talk all that <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> leading up to negotiations and sit in a hotel conference room for days/weeks and scare our customers only to cave so easily once the company disputes language? </p><p></p><p>I bet if someone were to ask a bunch of people on the outside to read the entirety of the 9.5 language and then ask them how they interpret that most would agree that we are due penalty pay for anything over 9.5 hours for those two days. I think that most of you disputing it in this forum actually agree as well, but sadly, at some point conceded on the issue because of how UPS behaves across the table. That is why they gets away with so many things. </p><p></p><p>Yes, our negotiators could do a better job at writing some of these things. But they are the ones who have come up with the language and added to it so they are the ones that know exactly what it is supposed to mean. They should fight like hell and to the end to secure it with precedence. It cave with the attitude “Well shucks! We’ll fix it in five years.”</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="100%ORIONComplianceGuy, post: 5912343, member: 109837"] I’ve read it more times than many. It makes total sense that we are due penalty pay for anything over 9.5 hours for those two days. Only the company, and company men, think otherwise. Just another example of weakness. Which is likely at play in this topic as well. Because we allowed them to. it says we can get penalty pay if worked over 9.5 hours two days in a week. Pretty easy to understand. also obvious to see that “excessive” is anything over 9.5. I have been around a while. I don’t need to sit across the table from the company to know how they think. And just because that’s how they think doesn’t mean that is what should be accepted by those who are sitting on our side. Nope. Never heard of it. Sounds like another example of weakness. Why talk all that :censored: leading up to negotiations and sit in a hotel conference room for days/weeks and scare our customers only to cave so easily once the company disputes language? I bet if someone were to ask a bunch of people on the outside to read the entirety of the 9.5 language and then ask them how they interpret that most would agree that we are due penalty pay for anything over 9.5 hours for those two days. I think that most of you disputing it in this forum actually agree as well, but sadly, at some point conceded on the issue because of how UPS behaves across the table. That is why they gets away with so many things. Yes, our negotiators could do a better job at writing some of these things. But they are the ones who have come up with the language and added to it so they are the ones that know exactly what it is supposed to mean. They should fight like hell and to the end to secure it with precedence. It cave with the attitude “Well shucks! We’ll fix it in five years.” [/QUOTE]
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