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<blockquote data-quote="Box Ox" data-source="post: 4751922" data-attributes="member: 48469"><p>The gang isn't happy!</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/20/technology/proud-boys-trump.html" target="_blank">‘A Total Failure’: The Proud Boys Now Mock Trump</a></p><p></p><p>"After the presidential election last year, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/us/proud-boys-trump.html" target="_blank">the Proud Boys</a>, a far-right group, declared its undying loyalty to President Trump.</p><p>In a Nov. 8 post in a private channel of the messaging app Telegram, the group urged its followers to attend protests against an election that it said had been fraudulently stolen from Mr. Trump. “Hail Emperor Trump,” the Proud Boys wrote.</p><p></p><p>But by this week, the group’s attitude toward Mr. Trump had changed. “Trump will go down as a total failure,” the Proud Boys said in the same Telegram channel on Monday.</p><p></p><p>As <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/20/us/politics/trump-pardons.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage" target="_blank">Mr. Trump departed the White House</a> on Wednesday, the Proud Boys, once among his staunchest supporters, have also started leaving his side. In dozens of conversations on social media sites like Gab and Telegram, members of the group have begun calling Mr. Trump a “shill” and “extraordinarily weak,” according to messages reviewed by The New York Times. They have also urged supporters to stop attending rallies and protests held for Mr. Trump or the Republican Party.</p><p></p><p>The comments are a startling turn for the Proud Boys, which for years had backed Mr. Trump and promoted political violence. Led by <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/04/us/politics/enrique-tarrio-proud-boys.html" target="_blank">Enrique Tarrio</a>, many of its thousands of members were such die-hard fans of Mr. Trump that they offered to serve as his private militia and celebrated after he told them in a presidential debate last year to “stand back and stand by.” On Jan. 6, some Proud Boys members <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/04/us/politics/enrique-tarrio-proud-boys.html" target="_blank">stormed the U.S. Capitol</a>.</p><p></p><p>But since then, discontent with Mr. Trump, who later condemned the violence, has boiled over. On social media, Proud Boys participants have complained about his willingness to leave office and said his disavowal of the Capitol rampage was an act of betrayal. And Mr. Trump, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/technology/twitter-trump-suspended.html" target="_blank">cut off on Facebook and Twitter</a>, has been unable to talk directly to them to soothe their concerns or issue new rallying cries."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Box Ox, post: 4751922, member: 48469"] The gang isn't happy! [URL='https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/20/technology/proud-boys-trump.html']‘A Total Failure’: The Proud Boys Now Mock Trump[/URL] "After the presidential election last year, [URL='https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/30/us/proud-boys-trump.html']the Proud Boys[/URL], a far-right group, declared its undying loyalty to President Trump. In a Nov. 8 post in a private channel of the messaging app Telegram, the group urged its followers to attend protests against an election that it said had been fraudulently stolen from Mr. Trump. “Hail Emperor Trump,” the Proud Boys wrote. But by this week, the group’s attitude toward Mr. Trump had changed. “Trump will go down as a total failure,” the Proud Boys said in the same Telegram channel on Monday. As [URL='https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/20/us/politics/trump-pardons.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage']Mr. Trump departed the White House[/URL] on Wednesday, the Proud Boys, once among his staunchest supporters, have also started leaving his side. In dozens of conversations on social media sites like Gab and Telegram, members of the group have begun calling Mr. Trump a “shill” and “extraordinarily weak,” according to messages reviewed by The New York Times. They have also urged supporters to stop attending rallies and protests held for Mr. Trump or the Republican Party. The comments are a startling turn for the Proud Boys, which for years had backed Mr. Trump and promoted political violence. Led by [URL='https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/04/us/politics/enrique-tarrio-proud-boys.html']Enrique Tarrio[/URL], many of its thousands of members were such die-hard fans of Mr. Trump that they offered to serve as his private militia and celebrated after he told them in a presidential debate last year to “stand back and stand by.” On Jan. 6, some Proud Boys members [URL='https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/04/us/politics/enrique-tarrio-proud-boys.html']stormed the U.S. Capitol[/URL]. But since then, discontent with Mr. Trump, who later condemned the violence, has boiled over. On social media, Proud Boys participants have complained about his willingness to leave office and said his disavowal of the Capitol rampage was an act of betrayal. And Mr. Trump, [URL='https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/technology/twitter-trump-suspended.html']cut off on Facebook and Twitter[/URL], has been unable to talk directly to them to soothe their concerns or issue new rallying cries." [/QUOTE]
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