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<blockquote data-quote="DELACROIX" data-source="post: 3522219" data-attributes="member: 49065"><p>Wise choice, as stated from previous postings, there is NO reason to vote NO if you are expecting any kind of a good contract. This is a standard of procedure, do you seriously think that UPS has not formulated every scenario. It all depends on the strength of the YES votes and the participation of the membership, they are counting on the apathy and victim mentality of their employees. </p><p></p><p>We will find out soon had this electronic voting goes, I had to do it by phone because I couldn't get to the site on line to cast my vote, it was a simple procedure. For those newer members, please remember that there is a strike fund in place for the average part timer it will be about 150 per week (5 X your monthly union dues). You will not be paid the first week but you will be getting paid the rest of the time, if there is a strike lasting more than a week. It appears the union is pushing for a 15 dollar per hour starting rate which is the minimum wage in California, this is a no brainer. I am guessing that if successful the average part timer will be getting an addition 2 or 3 dollars per hour plus additional contractual raises which I hope are not split and equal at least a dollar per hour. On the other side you will be hearing the same old mantra from the company that they cannot afford it, yeah right, they can easily afford a dollar per hour raise on wages, pension and health and welfare after gutting their non union's pay and benefits.</p><p></p><p>The concern of the so called hybrid 22.4's really depends on their starting wages and protection of current and future full time driving positions. This could be a win win for both parties, the company will have the ability to provide expanding services and the union will be creating more full time positions to help promote the part time employees, the devil is in the details as always.</p><p></p><p>If the vote is overwhelming in favor of a strike you can count on a little more activity by corporate to settle this. The national news media will start to get involved and it could start hurting their bottom line, stock value and customer base. UPS is a hell of a lot larger than it was back in "97", it will lose big time if a strike occurs. This negotiation will probably not be settled till July 31 at midnight, both parties can extend the contract if the union feels that the company is bargaining in good faith and offers a contract that will pass on the the first vote including the supplements. Again the money is there to keep everybody happy, if it doesn't happen with this contract it will never happen if the way the economy is booming and profit margins growing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DELACROIX, post: 3522219, member: 49065"] Wise choice, as stated from previous postings, there is NO reason to vote NO if you are expecting any kind of a good contract. This is a standard of procedure, do you seriously think that UPS has not formulated every scenario. It all depends on the strength of the YES votes and the participation of the membership, they are counting on the apathy and victim mentality of their employees. We will find out soon had this electronic voting goes, I had to do it by phone because I couldn't get to the site on line to cast my vote, it was a simple procedure. For those newer members, please remember that there is a strike fund in place for the average part timer it will be about 150 per week (5 X your monthly union dues). You will not be paid the first week but you will be getting paid the rest of the time, if there is a strike lasting more than a week. It appears the union is pushing for a 15 dollar per hour starting rate which is the minimum wage in California, this is a no brainer. I am guessing that if successful the average part timer will be getting an addition 2 or 3 dollars per hour plus additional contractual raises which I hope are not split and equal at least a dollar per hour. On the other side you will be hearing the same old mantra from the company that they cannot afford it, yeah right, they can easily afford a dollar per hour raise on wages, pension and health and welfare after gutting their non union's pay and benefits. The concern of the so called hybrid 22.4's really depends on their starting wages and protection of current and future full time driving positions. This could be a win win for both parties, the company will have the ability to provide expanding services and the union will be creating more full time positions to help promote the part time employees, the devil is in the details as always. If the vote is overwhelming in favor of a strike you can count on a little more activity by corporate to settle this. The national news media will start to get involved and it could start hurting their bottom line, stock value and customer base. UPS is a hell of a lot larger than it was back in "97", it will lose big time if a strike occurs. This negotiation will probably not be settled till July 31 at midnight, both parties can extend the contract if the union feels that the company is bargaining in good faith and offers a contract that will pass on the the first vote including the supplements. Again the money is there to keep everybody happy, if it doesn't happen with this contract it will never happen if the way the economy is booming and profit margins growing. [/QUOTE]
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