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<blockquote data-quote="UPS Lifer" data-source="post: 723623" data-attributes="member: 9789"><p><strong>You are right - I am passionate about this subject and get hot way too easily... I apologize.</strong> I grew up in California and spent all my life with Americans from Mexican descent. We have the same family values and more things in common than not. However - my whole life I watched Southern California become overtaken by Mexican nationals who feel they have a right or entitlement to be in our country illegally. Some actually believe that the gringos stole this part of the country from Mexico. I have a problem with this. I have no problem with doing things the right way - the legal recourse. In fact, I have helped a few become naturalized citizens and was happy to help. </p><p></p><p><strong>California's problem is two fold</strong>. There is an influx of Asian nationals and Mexican nationals. The city I grew up in Monterey Park, is unrecognizable (predominantly Asian). I can't read any of the signs. There are other cities were everything is in Spanish. <strong>The state is broke and cannot assimilate any more illegals. </strong></p><p></p><p><strong>People keep forgetting</strong> that there are only enough goods and services to go around and then your quality of life deteriorates. <strong>California is breaking at the seams</strong>. The problem is the scale has tipped to the illegal side and there is no way to stop it. </p><p></p><p><strong>Arizona is not that broken yet</strong> but the crime and violence is spilling over from Mexico and can no longer be contained with the law enforcement personnel we have. We need immediate help to stop the super highway flow of aliens. </p><p></p><p><strong>In Arizona, the cost of education - healthcare - incarceration is $700 per legal household </strong></p><p></p><p>Some stats from ImmigrationCounters.com for USA</p><p></p><p><span style="color: red"><strong>Money wired to Mexico since 2006 - $29 Billion +</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><strong>Money wired to latin America since 2001 - $259 Billion +</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><strong>Anchor babies born since 2002 - 4.9 million +</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><strong>Illegal Aliens incarcerated 420,000 +</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><strong>Fugitives 740,000 plus</strong></span></p><p><span style="color: red"><strong>Skilled Jobs provided to Illegal Aliens - 11.5 million</strong> </span></p><p></p><p>These are the things I would do if I had the power to fix this.</p><p></p><p><strong>Secure the border</strong> - Complete fence and more border agents - in mean time - National Guard troops secure border 24 hours a day. More towers at border - line of sight with sophisticated sighting equipment. Towers in secondary strategic positions to support front line of defense. Better and more sophisticated monitoring at border entrances to USA. Helicopter patrols increased until flow of illegals is all but eliminated. </p><p></p><p><strong>Detain for 30-60-90 days and deport all illegals suspected of criminal activity</strong> - create criminal electronic background check and put these people on a "Do Not Enter" List - </p><p></p><p><strong>Create a realistic Guest Worker program</strong> - must pay taxes - most be sponsored - must show proof of medical and car insurance. Electronic and ID profile tied to IRS records. Must understand that all children born in this country are not automatic citizens prior to parent becoming a citizen - (no more anchor babies) All resident and non residents ( even children) must carry identification or proof of status while in the USA. These forms of IDs could include ID bracelets or Dog Tags (with bar codes) as well as ID Cards or Green Cards. Children would be issued ID tied to a parent or legal guardian so status could be checked in electronic records. All records are updated based on expiration of status. </p><p></p><p><strong>All illegals go to the back of the pack</strong> but have a chance to gain citizenship after paying a fine to be determined through statistical analysis of realistic costs of illegal immigration for a period of 5 years - This is a one time chance with a one year limit to respond to. Those who volunteer to register rather than being apprehended face a reduction of penalties and move ahead of any apprehended illegal who is not involved in criminal activity other than their illegal status. </p><p></p><p><strong>Continue to allow the current allocation of naturalized citizens</strong>.</p><p></p><p><strong>As for entitlement programs.</strong> With legal status - you must be able to provide for your family, show proof of insurance etc. so not to be considered a burden on citizens, otherwise you get deported along with your family. Your electronic profile is tied to your IRS status and so are your entitlements. Any person or family considered a burden to the state is deported and must reapply for citizenship. </p><p></p><p>Just a few ideas.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UPS Lifer, post: 723623, member: 9789"] [B]You are right - I am passionate about this subject and get hot way too easily... I apologize.[/B] I grew up in California and spent all my life with Americans from Mexican descent. We have the same family values and more things in common than not. However - my whole life I watched Southern California become overtaken by Mexican nationals who feel they have a right or entitlement to be in our country illegally. Some actually believe that the gringos stole this part of the country from Mexico. I have a problem with this. I have no problem with doing things the right way - the legal recourse. In fact, I have helped a few become naturalized citizens and was happy to help. [B]California's problem is two fold[/B]. There is an influx of Asian nationals and Mexican nationals. The city I grew up in Monterey Park, is unrecognizable (predominantly Asian). I can't read any of the signs. There are other cities were everything is in Spanish. [B]The state is broke and cannot assimilate any more illegals. [/B] [B]People keep forgetting[/B] that there are only enough goods and services to go around and then your quality of life deteriorates. [B]California is breaking at the seams[/B]. The problem is the scale has tipped to the illegal side and there is no way to stop it. [B]Arizona is not that broken yet[/B] but the crime and violence is spilling over from Mexico and can no longer be contained with the law enforcement personnel we have. We need immediate help to stop the super highway flow of aliens. [B]In Arizona, the cost of education - healthcare - incarceration is $700 per legal household [/B] Some stats from ImmigrationCounters.com for USA [COLOR="red"][B]Money wired to Mexico since 2006 - $29 Billion + Money wired to latin America since 2001 - $259 Billion + Anchor babies born since 2002 - 4.9 million + Illegal Aliens incarcerated 420,000 + Fugitives 740,000 plus Skilled Jobs provided to Illegal Aliens - 11.5 million[/B] [/COLOR] These are the things I would do if I had the power to fix this. [B]Secure the border[/B] - Complete fence and more border agents - in mean time - National Guard troops secure border 24 hours a day. More towers at border - line of sight with sophisticated sighting equipment. Towers in secondary strategic positions to support front line of defense. Better and more sophisticated monitoring at border entrances to USA. Helicopter patrols increased until flow of illegals is all but eliminated. [B]Detain for 30-60-90 days and deport all illegals suspected of criminal activity[/B] - create criminal electronic background check and put these people on a "Do Not Enter" List - [B]Create a realistic Guest Worker program[/B] - must pay taxes - most be sponsored - must show proof of medical and car insurance. Electronic and ID profile tied to IRS records. Must understand that all children born in this country are not automatic citizens prior to parent becoming a citizen - (no more anchor babies) All resident and non residents ( even children) must carry identification or proof of status while in the USA. These forms of IDs could include ID bracelets or Dog Tags (with bar codes) as well as ID Cards or Green Cards. Children would be issued ID tied to a parent or legal guardian so status could be checked in electronic records. All records are updated based on expiration of status. [B]All illegals go to the back of the pack[/B] but have a chance to gain citizenship after paying a fine to be determined through statistical analysis of realistic costs of illegal immigration for a period of 5 years - This is a one time chance with a one year limit to respond to. Those who volunteer to register rather than being apprehended face a reduction of penalties and move ahead of any apprehended illegal who is not involved in criminal activity other than their illegal status. [B]Continue to allow the current allocation of naturalized citizens[/B]. [B]As for entitlement programs.[/B] With legal status - you must be able to provide for your family, show proof of insurance etc. so not to be considered a burden on citizens, otherwise you get deported along with your family. Your electronic profile is tied to your IRS status and so are your entitlements. Any person or family considered a burden to the state is deported and must reapply for citizenship. Just a few ideas. [/QUOTE]
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