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<blockquote data-quote="bbsam" data-source="post: 731873" data-attributes="member: 22662"><p>Do you remember how this all began.&nbsp; Back in post #442 I was making fun of Phil Jackson&#039;s &quot;they just copied the federal law&quot; logic.&nbsp; I understand that.&nbsp; I get it.&nbsp; Really I do.&nbsp; I understan Dilli when she says it&#039;s a matter of life and death.&nbsp; And yes the federal government should enforce the law.&nbsp; And therein lies the problem.&nbsp; The federal government for 30 years has ignored the problem for political and financial reasons.&nbsp; It had the law but no will to enforce it and therefore no need to carefully craft it.&nbsp; Arizona on the other hand has all the desire in the world, but not the legal jurisdiction.&nbsp; So when Arizona enforces the adopted federal standards, infringement upon US citizens rights are going to happen because it was a law that by legal necessity wasn&#039;t going to be enforced with any real voracity.&nbsp; Arizona supplies that voracity with nothing less than vigilante enthusiasm.&nbsp; It is understandable, but that does not mean it is legal or acceptable.&nbsp; It means the administration and congress MUST revamp it&#039;s policies to an enforceable and serious set of standards with security being at the top of the list of requirements.&nbsp; That can mean all kinds of actions.&nbsp; Repealing posse comitadas is one very real scenario.&nbsp; Personally I&#039;d like to see the US and Mexico work together.&nbsp; Maybe since the US doesn&#039;t want oil refineries in the US we could help Mexico build them and boost their economy and our own.&nbsp; Little things, but they all tie together in the end.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="bbsam, post: 731873, member: 22662"] Do you remember how this all began. Back in post #442 I was making fun of Phil Jackson's "they just copied the federal law" logic. I understand that. I get it. Really I do. I understan Dilli when she says it's a matter of life and death. And yes the federal government should enforce the law. And therein lies the problem. The federal government for 30 years has ignored the problem for political and financial reasons. It had the law but no will to enforce it and therefore no need to carefully craft it. Arizona on the other hand has all the desire in the world, but not the legal jurisdiction. So when Arizona enforces the adopted federal standards, infringement upon US citizens rights are going to happen because it was a law that by legal necessity wasn't going to be enforced with any real voracity. Arizona supplies that voracity with nothing less than vigilante enthusiasm. It is understandable, but that does not mean it is legal or acceptable. It means the administration and congress MUST revamp it's policies to an enforceable and serious set of standards with security being at the top of the list of requirements. That can mean all kinds of actions. Repealing posse comitadas is one very real scenario. Personally I'd like to see the US and Mexico work together. Maybe since the US doesn't want oil refineries in the US we could help Mexico build them and boost their economy and our own. Little things, but they all tie together in the end. [/QUOTE]

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