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Message: <blockquote data-quote="trplnkl" data-source="post: 732386" data-attributes="member: 13254">No one was saying that all illegals were taking jobs, clearly not happening. No one said all illegals are on welfare, also clear that isn;t happeneing as well. So yes, it can be both ways. Some illegals here are working, using false IDs, DLs and SS cards. They do pay taxes on their wages, but under the name of someone else. False documents can be obtained regardless of the safe guards that try to stop them. Most cities of any size have businesses that employee illegals with fake papers on a day work basis where the pay is so insignificant that not taxes would be taken out and it is on a contract basis where the worker is responsible for paying the taxes (like that's gonna happen).Many states do have laws that fine and/or shut down businesses for hiring illegals (AZ has such a law) but that alone will not solve the problem. Part of the purpose of the Az immigration law is to find and deport any illegal found, especially the ones that are in the country for illicit activities. i.e. smuggling of various illegal items, assassinating rival drug dealers(or anyone that gets in their way). These people don't work here they don't pay taxes nor do they drain the welfare system. They do bring large amounts of illegal drugs, kill innocent American citizens for just trying to keep what they have worked their lives to build. Trying to put all this into one nutshell is short sighted at best.</blockquote>

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