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<blockquote data-quote="KingofBrown" data-source="post: 732608" data-attributes="member: 28771"><p>Exactly! That's what I was talking about. I just needed someone to confirm it. It seems that you guys don't even care what the law says, or what it does. You're just pointing fingers on the current Federal Administration using SB1070 (With its modifications). That's what I perceive in many of these posts, if not all of them. You've mixed this political garbage between two groups fighting for power with how this law could work or how it doesn't; you're between this fight and can't see what is around it.</p><p> </p><p>I've already read what's in the link before you placed here, and I've even read more than that. And still, I can't see why you're so assure that there's already a Federal Law like SB1070 with its modifications. I still want to see that Federal Law you proclaim is the same as SB1070. If you're saying that SB1070, with its modifications of course, reinforces Federal Law, then that's a different story. The thing here is how it reinforces it, not that it reinforces it. Um... How dare can you insult our Constitution by saying that it does not have anti-profiling, saying that it does not protect people from being victims of profiling or racism. Our Constitution protects all people under every jurisdiction with the same individual rights under law. See? You're still wrong in saying that HB2162 "protects legal citizens from profiling and possible... blah blah blah." You should have said the same thing but instead of "legal citizens" you should have mention "any person living under our jurisdiction." That would sound a little better for HB2162 in your statement.</p><p> </p><p>Now here we go:</p><p> </p><p><em>For any lawful contact<span style="color: red"> (Um... I don't wanna' talk about this one</span><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/surprised.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":surprised:" title="Surprised :surprised:" data-shortname=":surprised:" /><span style="color: red">) </span><strong>stop, detention or arrest</strong> made by a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of this state or a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state <strong>in the enforcement of any other law or ordinance of a county, city or town or this state</strong> where <span style="color: blue">reasonable suspicion</span> <span style="color: red">(Doesn't this depend more on the Police Officer than anyone else? I wonder how they'd be trained to have reasonable suspicion on an illegal alien. Well, at least we have your kind words dear Gov. Brewer to protect people from being racial profiled)</span> exists that the person is an alien who <strong>and</strong> <span style="color: red">(I don't see much of a change for better, someone explain that to me please, seriously) </span><span style="color: black">is</span> unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person, except if the determination may hinder or obstruct an investigation. Any person who is arrested shall have the person's immigration status determined before the person is released. The person's immigration status shall be verified with the federal government pursuant to 8 United States code section 1373(c). A law enforcement official or agency of this state or a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state may not solely <span style="color: red">(Isn't this racist? You're saying that you will not consider <strong>only</strong> race, color, or national origin, but you still will consider them as of implementing the law)</span> consider race, color or national origin in implementing the requirements of this subsection except to the extent permitted by the United States or Arizona Constitution <span style="color: red">(Now, it doesn't matter if you say as to the extent permitted by the United States Constitution or Arizona's, because you've just broke that extent by saying you will consider race, color, or national origin).</span> A person is presumed to not be an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States if the person provides to the law enforcement officer or agency any of the following... blah blah blah.</em></p><p> </p><p>Now, you will say: "But, that's already modify, it doesn't apply to this anymore." And I say now, who the heck with an IQ of 20 signs this stupidity? Or did Arpaio wrote this thing? And then they paid a private lawyer to modify it? I wonder what that lawyer said: "Umm.... Well.... That's all I can do with it. But, I recommend you start from scratch..." Arpaio: Oh shut up! It's perfect, you've already hurt much of it."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KingofBrown, post: 732608, member: 28771"] Exactly! That's what I was talking about. I just needed someone to confirm it. It seems that you guys don't even care what the law says, or what it does. You're just pointing fingers on the current Federal Administration using SB1070 (With its modifications). That's what I perceive in many of these posts, if not all of them. You've mixed this political garbage between two groups fighting for power with how this law could work or how it doesn't; you're between this fight and can't see what is around it. I've already read what's in the link before you placed here, and I've even read more than that. And still, I can't see why you're so assure that there's already a Federal Law like SB1070 with its modifications. I still want to see that Federal Law you proclaim is the same as SB1070. If you're saying that SB1070, with its modifications of course, reinforces Federal Law, then that's a different story. The thing here is how it reinforces it, not that it reinforces it. Um... How dare can you insult our Constitution by saying that it does not have anti-profiling, saying that it does not protect people from being victims of profiling or racism. Our Constitution protects all people under every jurisdiction with the same individual rights under law. See? You're still wrong in saying that HB2162 "protects legal citizens from profiling and possible... blah blah blah." You should have said the same thing but instead of "legal citizens" you should have mention "any person living under our jurisdiction." That would sound a little better for HB2162 in your statement. Now here we go: [I]For any lawful contact[COLOR=red] (Um... I don't wanna' talk about this one[/COLOR]:surprised:[COLOR=red]) [/COLOR][B]stop, detention or arrest[/B] made by a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of this state or a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state [B]in the enforcement of any other law or ordinance of a county, city or town or this state[/B] where [COLOR=blue]reasonable suspicion[/COLOR] [COLOR=red](Doesn't this depend more on the Police Officer than anyone else? I wonder how they'd be trained to have reasonable suspicion on an illegal alien. Well, at least we have your kind words dear Gov. Brewer to protect people from being racial profiled)[/COLOR] exists that the person is an alien who [B]and[/B] [COLOR=red](I don't see much of a change for better, someone explain that to me please, seriously) [/COLOR][COLOR=black]is[/COLOR] unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person, except if the determination may hinder or obstruct an investigation. Any person who is arrested shall have the person's immigration status determined before the person is released. The person's immigration status shall be verified with the federal government pursuant to 8 United States code section 1373(c). A law enforcement official or agency of this state or a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state may not solely [COLOR=red](Isn't this racist? You're saying that you will not consider [B]only[/B] race, color, or national origin, but you still will consider them as of implementing the law)[/COLOR] consider race, color or national origin in implementing the requirements of this subsection except to the extent permitted by the United States or Arizona Constitution [COLOR=red](Now, it doesn't matter if you say as to the extent permitted by the United States Constitution or Arizona's, because you've just broke that extent by saying you will consider race, color, or national origin).[/COLOR] A person is presumed to not be an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States if the person provides to the law enforcement officer or agency any of the following... blah blah blah.[/I] Now, you will say: "But, that's already modify, it doesn't apply to this anymore." And I say now, who the heck with an IQ of 20 signs this stupidity? Or did Arpaio wrote this thing? And then they paid a private lawyer to modify it? I wonder what that lawyer said: "Umm.... Well.... That's all I can do with it. But, I recommend you start from scratch..." Arpaio: Oh shut up! It's perfect, you've already hurt much of it." [/QUOTE]
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