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<blockquote data-quote="trplnkl" data-source="post: 738339" data-attributes="member: 13254"><p><strong><em>[FONT=&quot]Addressing your post #906[/FONT]</em></strong></p><p> <strong><em>[FONT=&quot]Race:[/FONT]</em></strong> (for definition purposes; people belonging to a specific ethnicity such as <strong>:</strong> Hispanic friend, relating to, or being a person of Latin American descent (<strong>living in </strong><a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hispanic%20/" target="_blank"><strong>the United States</strong></a><a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hispanic%20/" target="_blank"><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-shortname=";)" /> </a><em>especially</em> <strong>:</strong> one of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin).</p><p> When you added the line “living in the United States) made the definition of Race incorrect. A person’s race/ethnicity does not change with where they live.</p><p> You said:</p><p> <strong><span style="color: blue">You’re wrong, there’s no such thing as Mexican Hispanics, or Argentinean Hispanics, or Chilean Hispanics. If you’re Hispanic you’re Hispanic, and that’s it. And read at the bottom where I’ve written about the jurisdictional rights for illegal Mexicans before you respond.</span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #c0504d">You couldn’t be more wrong, you are still confused on the difference in Nationality and Race/Ethnicity. Mexico, Argentina and Chile are nations, the citizens living there and from there are Mexicans, Argentinean or Chilean respectively, that is their nationality. If their heritage is Hispanic then they are Mexican Hispanics, etc. If their heritage is not Hispanic, they are of another race. A person’s race is not determined by where they live.</span></strong></p><p> <strong><span style="color: #c0504d">Jurisdictional rights of illegal Mexicans has nothing to do with their race.</span></strong></p><p> </p><p> <strong><span style="color: #c0504d">Your following diatribe makes little sense, but I will try to decipher it the best I can.</span></strong></p><p> <span style="font-size: 9px"><strong><span style="color: red">Hey, what happened with the definition I gave you? </span></strong><strong>Discrimination: treating people differently through prejudice: </strong>unfair treatment of one person or group, usually because of prejudice about <strong><span style="color: red">race</span></strong>, ethnicity, age, religion, or gender. <strong><span style="color: red">OK, if you want me to read sentence by sentence leaving the idea of the others behind: </span><span style="color: blue">“Discrimination against illegals from Mexico is not racism” - </span><span style="color: red">Discrimination </span>(You could discriminate others because of <span style="color: red">race</span>, discrimination includes that, I hope it’s clear, and I hope you understand why the word religion appeared here) <span style="color: red">against ilegals from Mexico </span>(Illegal Mexicans are Hispanic, too!) They have an Ethnicity (And according to the United Nations, there is no distinction between the term racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination, just so you know</strong>.)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"></span> <strong><span style="font-size: 9px">They’re included in terms of law, they have the rights because they‘re living under a jurisdiction of the United States of America, or how you think they would fill the Census Form? </span><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: blue">Do you consider yourself: 1)White 2)Black 3)Illegal Allien from Mexico 4)Illegal Alien from El Salvador 5)….. NO! </span></span><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: red">is not racism. </span></span><span style="font-size: 9px">(It can include </span><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="color: red">racism</span></span><span style="font-size: 9px">, age, religion or gender, for GOD’s sake! Or the energy of the universe‘s sake or whatever, I don‘t care you religious beliefs) Now, what’s discrimination for you? Not accepting a taco offered by an illegal Mexican immigrant? Or not saying “bless you” when an illegal Mexican sneezes? You can’t express the difference between race and nationality in that sentence, because it’s absurd.</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong> <span style="font-size: 12px"><strong><em><span style="color: #c0504d">[FONT=&quot]I did miss word my statement [/FONT]</span></em></strong></span><strong><span style="color: blue">“Discrimination against illegals from Mexico is not racism”. </span></strong><strong><em><span style="color: #c0504d">[FONT=&quot]<span style="font-size: 12px">To coincide with my thoughts, I should have typed, “the</span> <span style="font-size: 12px">law is not racism against illegals from Mexico”. My apologies for the miss wording.</span>[/FONT]</span></em></strong><span style="font-size: 12px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Sienna"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Sienna"><strong><em>[FONT=&quot]I agree that race can be used as bases for discrimination and I’ve never said it was right to do so. </em></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Sienna"><strong><em></em></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Sienna"><strong><em>[/FONT]</em></strong><strong><em>[FONT=&quot]You use the words “can/could” to the twist on the definition of discrimination. Of course race CAN be used to discriminate, however simply because it CAN or COULD does not meant that it WILL be used. The LEOs could target anyone driving a blue Ford, but I don’t think it is going to happen either.</em></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Sienna"><strong><em></em></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Sienna"><strong><em>[/FONT]</em></strong><strong><em>[FONT=&quot]I agree that SOME illegal immigrants from Mexico are Hispanic, but not all are. To assume so would be illogical and incorrect.</em></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Sienna"><strong><em></em></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Sienna"><strong><em>[/FONT]</em></strong><strong><em>[FONT=&quot]Although I could not care less what the UN has to say on most topics, I do agree that there is no difference in ethnic and racial discrimination. In fact, I have stated more than once that race=ethnicity.</em></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Sienna"><strong><em></em></strong></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Sienna"><strong><em>[/FONT]</em></strong></span></span> <span style="color: Sienna"><strong><em>[FONT=&quot]<span style="font-size: 12px">My contention is and has been, SB1070 is not discriminatory as signed into law. As I read the law, it targets illegal immigrants/aliens regardless of their country of origin, their race/ethnicity. If you really think it is discriminatory, please tell me exactly what part of the law you are concerned about</span>.[/FONT]</em></strong></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'"><span style="color: Sienna"><em><strong>Oh and BTW, thanks for calling me Cowboy. Did someone tell you that is my second favorite nickname?</strong></em></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="trplnkl, post: 738339, member: 13254"] [B][I][FONT="]Addressing your post #906[/FONT][/I][/B] [B][I][FONT="]Race:[/FONT][/I][/B] (for definition purposes; people belonging to a specific ethnicity such as [B]:[/B] Hispanic friend, relating to, or being a person of Latin American descent ([B]living in [/B][URL="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hispanic%20/"][B]the United States[/B][/URL][URL="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hispanic%20/"];) [/URL][I]especially[/I] [B]:[/B] one of Cuban, Mexican, or Puerto Rican origin). When you added the line “living in the United States) made the definition of Race incorrect. A person’s race/ethnicity does not change with where they live. You said: [B][COLOR=blue]You’re wrong, there’s no such thing as Mexican Hispanics, or Argentinean Hispanics, or Chilean Hispanics. If you’re Hispanic you’re Hispanic, and that’s it. And read at the bottom where I’ve written about the jurisdictional rights for illegal Mexicans before you respond.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#c0504d]You couldn’t be more wrong, you are still confused on the difference in Nationality and Race/Ethnicity. Mexico, Argentina and Chile are nations, the citizens living there and from there are Mexicans, Argentinean or Chilean respectively, that is their nationality. If their heritage is Hispanic then they are Mexican Hispanics, etc. If their heritage is not Hispanic, they are of another race. A person’s race is not determined by where they live.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#c0504d]Jurisdictional rights of illegal Mexicans has nothing to do with their race.[/COLOR][/B] [B][COLOR=#c0504d]Your following diatribe makes little sense, but I will try to decipher it the best I can.[/COLOR][/B] [SIZE=1][B][COLOR=red]Hey, what happened with the definition I gave you? [/COLOR][/B][B]Discrimination: treating people differently through prejudice: [/B]unfair treatment of one person or group, usually because of prejudice about [B][COLOR=red]race[/COLOR][/B], ethnicity, age, religion, or gender. [B][COLOR=red]OK, if you want me to read sentence by sentence leaving the idea of the others behind: [/COLOR][COLOR=blue]“Discrimination against illegals from Mexico is not racism” - [/COLOR][COLOR=red]Discrimination [/COLOR](You could discriminate others because of [COLOR=red]race[/COLOR], discrimination includes that, I hope it’s clear, and I hope you understand why the word religion appeared here) [COLOR=red]against ilegals from Mexico [/COLOR](Illegal Mexicans are Hispanic, too!) They have an Ethnicity (And according to the United Nations, there is no distinction between the term racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination, just so you know[/B].) [/SIZE] [B][SIZE=1]They’re included in terms of law, they have the rights because they‘re living under a jurisdiction of the United States of America, or how you think they would fill the Census Form? [/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=blue]Do you consider yourself: 1)White 2)Black 3)Illegal Allien from Mexico 4)Illegal Alien from El Salvador 5)….. NO! [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=red]is not racism. [/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1](It can include [/SIZE][SIZE=1][COLOR=red]racism[/COLOR][/SIZE][SIZE=1], age, religion or gender, for GOD’s sake! Or the energy of the universe‘s sake or whatever, I don‘t care you religious beliefs) Now, what’s discrimination for you? Not accepting a taco offered by an illegal Mexican immigrant? Or not saying “bless you” when an illegal Mexican sneezes? You can’t express the difference between race and nationality in that sentence, because it’s absurd.[/SIZE] [/B] [SIZE=3][B][I][COLOR=#c0504d][FONT="]I did miss word my statement [/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/B][/SIZE][B][COLOR=blue]“Discrimination against illegals from Mexico is not racism”. [/COLOR][/B][B][I][COLOR=#c0504d][FONT="][SIZE=3]To coincide with my thoughts, I should have typed, “the[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]law is not racism against illegals from Mexico”. My apologies for the miss wording.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/B][SIZE=3] [COLOR=Sienna] [B][I][FONT="]I agree that race can be used as bases for discrimination and I’ve never said it was right to do so. [/FONT][/I][/B][B][I][FONT="]You use the words “can/could” to the twist on the definition of discrimination. Of course race CAN be used to discriminate, however simply because it CAN or COULD does not meant that it WILL be used. The LEOs could target anyone driving a blue Ford, but I don’t think it is going to happen either. [/FONT][/I][/B][B][I][FONT="]I agree that SOME illegal immigrants from Mexico are Hispanic, but not all are. To assume so would be illogical and incorrect. [/FONT][/I][/B][B][I][FONT="]Although I could not care less what the UN has to say on most topics, I do agree that there is no difference in ethnic and racial discrimination. In fact, I have stated more than once that race=ethnicity. [/FONT][/I][/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] [COLOR=Sienna][B][I][FONT="][SIZE=3]My contention is and has been, SB1070 is not discriminatory as signed into law. As I read the law, it targets illegal immigrants/aliens regardless of their country of origin, their race/ethnicity. If you really think it is discriminatory, please tell me exactly what part of the law you are concerned about[/SIZE].[/FONT][/I][/B][/COLOR] [FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=Sienna][I][B]Oh and BTW, thanks for calling me Cowboy. Did someone tell you that is my second favorite nickname?[/B][/I][/COLOR][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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