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<blockquote data-quote="av8torntn" data-source="post: 746705" data-attributes="member: 8259"><p>Didn&#039;t bother to listen to any of it as I do not really care what he says. I gave you my opinion. Both laws allow local law enforcement to check immigration status. Federal law requires immigrants to carry their &quot;papers&quot; with them. The state law does not so yes federal and state law are not exactly the same but to me that is a silly reason to oppose it. Federal law allows local cops to check immigration status as well as this state law. I think the state of Arizona should be allowed to pass laws and enforce them and you do not. We will find no middle ground here and since I do not live in Arizona I really do not care outside of a states rights position and I do not see any violation of Constitutional rights&nbsp; so in that sense I stand with the people of Arizona and believe they should keep the right to govern themselves. From my point of view it is a myth for you to say this law does not mirror existing federal law as federal law enforcement officers have the right to check your immigration status. There is not doubt that they do not reserve this right solely. I do not know where you live but if you live in Arizona your opinion on this law trumps mine in my view. It seems like you are saying that the federal government cannot check the immigration status of individuals and I have the opinion that they can. It seems like you have the opinion that certain local law enforcement agencies cannot refer people to the federal government to check their immigration status and I have the opinion that they can. Basically it seems like you are looking to argue about nothing and I&#039;m not really interested. In my view this state law is very very close to state law and it seems the people of Arizona want it in large numbers so they should have the right to have it. Good luck with all that anger.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="av8torntn, post: 746705, member: 8259"] Didn't bother to listen to any of it as I do not really care what he says. I gave you my opinion. Both laws allow local law enforcement to check immigration status. Federal law requires immigrants to carry their "papers" with them. The state law does not so yes federal and state law are not exactly the same but to me that is a silly reason to oppose it. Federal law allows local cops to check immigration status as well as this state law. I think the state of Arizona should be allowed to pass laws and enforce them and you do not. We will find no middle ground here and since I do not live in Arizona I really do not care outside of a states rights position and I do not see any violation of Constitutional rights so in that sense I stand with the people of Arizona and believe they should keep the right to govern themselves. From my point of view it is a myth for you to say this law does not mirror existing federal law as federal law enforcement officers have the right to check your immigration status. There is not doubt that they do not reserve this right solely. I do not know where you live but if you live in Arizona your opinion on this law trumps mine in my view. It seems like you are saying that the federal government cannot check the immigration status of individuals and I have the opinion that they can. It seems like you have the opinion that certain local law enforcement agencies cannot refer people to the federal government to check their immigration status and I have the opinion that they can. Basically it seems like you are looking to argue about nothing and I'm not really interested. In my view this state law is very very close to state law and it seems the people of Arizona want it in large numbers so they should have the right to have it. Good luck with all that anger. [/QUOTE]

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