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<blockquote data-quote="KingofBrown" data-source="post: 746724" data-attributes="member: 28771"><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Didn't bother to listen to any of it as I do not really care what he says. I gave you my opinion. Both laws allow local law enforcement to check immigration status. <strong>That doesn’t make SB1070 a mirror of current Federal Law.</strong> Federal law requires immigrants to carry their "papers" with them. The state law does not so yes federal and state law are not exactly the same but to me that is a silly reason to oppose it. Federal law allows local cops to check immigration status as well as this state law. I think the state of Arizona should be allowed to pass laws and enforce them and you do not. We will find no middle ground here and since I do not live in Arizona I really do not care outside of a states rights position and I do not see any violation of Constitutional rights so in that sense I stand with the people of Arizona and believe they should keep the right to govern themselves. <strong>In these aspects you are wrong. We are called the <span style="color: navy">United States</span> <span style="color: red">of America</span>.</strong><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"> From my point of view it is a myth for you to say this law does not mirror existing federal law as federal law enforcement officers have the right to check your immigration status. There is not doubt that they do not reserve this right solely. I do not know where you live but if you live in Arizona your opinion on this law trumps mine in my view. It seems like you are saying that the federal government cannot check the immigration status of individuals and I have the opinion that they can. It seems like you have the opinion that certain local law enforcement agencies cannot refer people to the federal government to check their immigration status and I have the opinion that they can. <strong>Where have I insinuated such a thing?</strong> Basically it seems like you are looking to argue about nothing and I'm not really interested. <strong>With no offense, but</strong> <strong>what it seems is that you’re arguing with yourself.</strong> In my view this state law is very very close to state law and it seems the people of Arizona want it in large numbers so they should have the right to have it. <strong>Just because a large number of people want a law, does that make it right to have it? No, dude, states have to follow our Constitutional Principles and Laws, and our Constitution respects the rights of every single people, including the minorities. It doesn’t matter if 99% in the polls are in favor of a law.</strong> Good luck with all that anger.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><span style="font-size: 15px"><strong>There are very few things that can make me angry; SB1070 is not in that list. So we agree that there’s no such Federal Law as SB1070? And who opposes it because it’s not the same as Federal Law? Instead, it’d silly to support it just because one thinks it mirrors Federal Law.</strong></span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #333333"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'"><strong>You’re not clear if SB1070 mirrors Federal Law or not. I just want to see something at least similar to </strong></span></span><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><u><span style="color: #333333">Sec. 6. Section 13-3883. from HB2162</span></u><span style="color: #333333">. #5 in particular in a current Federal Law.</span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KingofBrown, post: 746724, member: 28771"] [SIZE=4]Didn't bother to listen to any of it as I do not really care what he says. I gave you my opinion. Both laws allow local law enforcement to check immigration status. [B]That doesn’t make SB1070 a mirror of current Federal Law.[/B] Federal law requires immigrants to carry their "papers" with them. The state law does not so yes federal and state law are not exactly the same but to me that is a silly reason to oppose it. Federal law allows local cops to check immigration status as well as this state law. I think the state of Arizona should be allowed to pass laws and enforce them and you do not. We will find no middle ground here and since I do not live in Arizona I really do not care outside of a states rights position and I do not see any violation of Constitutional rights so in that sense I stand with the people of Arizona and believe they should keep the right to govern themselves. [B]In these aspects you are wrong. We are called the [COLOR=navy]United States[/COLOR] [COLOR=red]of America[/COLOR].[/B][COLOR=#333333][FONT=Tahoma] From my point of view it is a myth for you to say this law does not mirror existing federal law as federal law enforcement officers have the right to check your immigration status. There is not doubt that they do not reserve this right solely. I do not know where you live but if you live in Arizona your opinion on this law trumps mine in my view. It seems like you are saying that the federal government cannot check the immigration status of individuals and I have the opinion that they can. It seems like you have the opinion that certain local law enforcement agencies cannot refer people to the federal government to check their immigration status and I have the opinion that they can. [B]Where have I insinuated such a thing?[/B] Basically it seems like you are looking to argue about nothing and I'm not really interested. [B]With no offense, but[/B] [B]what it seems is that you’re arguing with yourself.[/B] In my view this state law is very very close to state law and it seems the people of Arizona want it in large numbers so they should have the right to have it. [B]Just because a large number of people want a law, does that make it right to have it? No, dude, states have to follow our Constitutional Principles and Laws, and our Constitution respects the rights of every single people, including the minorities. It doesn’t matter if 99% in the polls are in favor of a law.[/B] Good luck with all that anger.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE] [SIZE=4] [/SIZE] [COLOR=#333333][FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4][B]There are very few things that can make me angry; SB1070 is not in that list. So we agree that there’s no such Federal Law as SB1070? And who opposes it because it’s not the same as Federal Law? Instead, it’d silly to support it just because one thinks it mirrors Federal Law.[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [SIZE=4] [/SIZE] [SIZE=4][COLOR=#333333][FONT=Tahoma][B]You’re not clear if SB1070 mirrors Federal Law or not. I just want to see something at least similar to [/B][/FONT][/COLOR][FONT=Times New Roman][U][COLOR=#333333]Sec. 6. Section 13-3883. from HB2162[/COLOR][/U][COLOR=#333333]. #5 in particular in a current Federal Law.[/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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