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Message: <blockquote data-quote="olroadbeech" data-source="post: 4564969" data-attributes="member: 52145">i started in 1993 and we still had those rolling coffins. i couldnt believe it coming from a logging company with topof line Petes with 425 cats in them. Here were these 5 speed tractors that could only manage 20mph up hills with holes in the floorboard ( not exaggerating ). You could see the asphalt highway near your feet. You froze in the winter . They did have a fan on the dash for summer though. I know they had over a million miles on them.Probably a couple. When we started getting snub nose tractors with only 400-500k miles on them we were in seventh heaven.</blockquote>