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<blockquote data-quote="Upsmule" data-source="post: 1162534" data-attributes="member: 45962">Well, I&#039;m not denying your bringing up a very legitimate point and question. But as I tried to point out. God didn&#039;t harden Pharaoh&#039;s heart He simply allowed it. Pharaoh hardened his own heart and iron clad will against the obvious hand of God over and over and over again. God is God and we are not. Who knows why he chooses His ways for His ways are not our ways. Who knows. As barbaric as your point seems to paint a loving merciful God out to be, a God that&#039;s long suffering slow to anger and &quot;would that none perish&quot; (The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. 2Peter 3:9) one could also make the argument that Pharaoh brought it all on himself, and God spared these first born of Egypt from what would be a lifetime of false god and idol worship with the end result being an eternity separated from a Holy God and creator. That aside, I don&#039;t need to pick and choose certain bible verses - to throw out the ugly and cling to the inspirational to justify my own belief and or lifestyle as many sadly do. I can look up into the sky at night and see His handiwork. I can see my children being born and know we aren&#039;t a result of some cosmic accident that crawled out of some primordial soup and then sprouted limbs and began walking eventually. Now THAT&#039;S what I call blind faith.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Upsmule, post: 1162534, member: 45962"] Well, I'm not denying your bringing up a very legitimate point and question. But as I tried to point out. God didn't harden Pharaoh's heart He simply allowed it. Pharaoh hardened his own heart and iron clad will against the obvious hand of God over and over and over again. God is God and we are not. Who knows why he chooses His ways for His ways are not our ways. Who knows. As barbaric as your point seems to paint a loving merciful God out to be, a God that's long suffering slow to anger and "would that none perish" (The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. 2Peter 3:9) one could also make the argument that Pharaoh brought it all on himself, and God spared these first born of Egypt from what would be a lifetime of false god and idol worship with the end result being an eternity separated from a Holy God and creator. That aside, I don't need to pick and choose certain bible verses - to throw out the ugly and cling to the inspirational to justify my own belief and or lifestyle as many sadly do. I can look up into the sky at night and see His handiwork. I can see my children being born and know we aren't a result of some cosmic accident that crawled out of some primordial soup and then sprouted limbs and began walking eventually. Now THAT'S what I call blind faith. [/QUOTE]

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