Becoming An American Means Assimilating American Values & Culture

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
I assume most of you saw the chart posted in another thread that attempted to define Whiteness Culture.
I read through the chart several times and through the page where it was posted twice.
Something bothered me the entire time I was reading it and then it clicked!
They were talking about AMERICAN VALUES AND CULTURE!
When a person immigrates to the United States of America they are expected to 'assimilate' into the American Values and Culture.

National Museum of African American History & Culture (NMAAHC):
‘Hard Work, Objective Thinking, Being Polite’ Are Aspects of White Culture

I changed the chart to reflect AMERICAN VALUES & CULTURE
... some of the stuff I'm not in agreement with but I left it.

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Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
The Smithsonian American Chart

So we’ve been living with this whiteness stuff for a long, long time. When we used to protest against political correctness back in the 80’s and 90’s, there was always an undercurrent of, “Well, at least most people won’t take this seriously.” What we didn’t realize was that it would be taught in our schools as fact – that these were the characteristics of white culture and that they are bad.

After a couple of generations of this messaging in our schools, kids now accept this as being obvious: white culture is bad. Irredeemably bad. But note that white kids are not allowed to appropriate other cultures. That leaves them lost and vulnerable, with no cultural foundation to ground them. No wonder they’re addicted to social media and completely on board with rioting.

This chart seems to be the source of the Smithsonian Chart ... it was developed in 1990 by Judith Katz.
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newfie

Well-Known Member
dude this :censored2: recquires an education. dont you have a short list of talking points you can give the libs?

religion is bad
orange man is bad
rich people are bad
white people are bad
bad people are good
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
The Smithsonian American Chart

So we’ve been living with this whiteness stuff for a long, long time. When we used to protest against political correctness back in the 80’s and 90’s, there was always an undercurrent of, “Well, at least most people won’t take this seriously.” What we didn’t realize was that it would be taught in our schools as fact – that these were the characteristics of white culture and that they are bad.

After a couple of generations of this messaging in our schools, kids now accept this as being obvious: white culture is bad. Irredeemably bad. But note that white kids are not allowed to appropriate other cultures. That leaves them lost and vulnerable, with no cultural foundation to ground them. No wonder they’re addicted to social media and completely on board with rioting.

This chart seems to be the source of the Smithsonian Chart ... it was developed in 1990 by Judith Katz.
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When I was in school, America was described as a "melting pot". We come together as the greatest culture on earth.

Now, these idiot liberals have changed it to a "salad bowl". We refuse to assimilate and focus on our differences.

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Dumb as hell.
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
When I was in school, America was described as a "melting pot". We come together as the greatest culture on earth.

Now, these idiot liberals have changed it to a "salad bowl". We refuse to assimilate and focus on our differences.

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Dumb as hell.

We were taught the patchwork quilt theory.
I don't have a problem with maintaining some sort of national origin identity within communities, families, etc. But for a country to function we have to have an overarching culture that solidifies us as a nation of people who have shared interests and are willing to fight as one to defend those interests. If one set of values has become dominant among all sets of values, it is because that set of values works better than the others. Those are the values that should be integrated as the overarching "American Values".

Nationalism is talked about by the forced narrative media (should not be referred to as mainstream any more) as though it were evil. But the alternative to nationalism is globalism. So, I'll keep my nationalism, thank you very much.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
I assume most of you saw the chart posted in another thread that attempted to define Whiteness Culture.
I read through the chart several times and through the page where it was posted twice.
Something bothered me the entire time I was reading it and then it clicked!
They were talking about AMERICAN VALUES AND CULTURE!
When a person immigrates to the United States of America they are expected to 'assimilate' into the American Values and Culture.

National Museum of African American History & Culture (NMAAHC):
‘Hard Work, Objective Thinking, Being Polite’ Are Aspects of White Culture

I changed the chart to reflect AMERICAN VALUES & CULTURE
... some of the stuff I'm not in agreement with but I left it.

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I don't see the USA as a 'Melting Pot' where everyone assimilates into one common culture.
In fact, in my travels across the USA I have seen and enjoyed a great diversity in culture.
I believe that the 'Melting Pot' is more focused on American Values rather than a American Culture.
Look at the values espoused in the chart in post 1 of this thread ... those are American Values.

Socialism is the opposite of American Values and that is why AOC says we must teardown and rebuild the "system".


I like this chart better than the one DIDO posted in post #4 because it has the Melting Pot as American whilst ...
the Salad Bowl as a representation of UK society.​
I was in UK for a time and I never got comfortable with different 'districts' with their own culture and values.
It is a useful comparison in which America is vastly superior IMO.
American Melting Pot vs UK Salad Bowl.jpg
 

DELACROIX

In the Spirit of Honore' Daumier
If you lower the bar enough everybody is inclusive and equal. What happens when somebody comes along and has extraordinary abilities in any field, what would we as a society do them?

I remember several years ago we had a security guard who to wanted to pick up a package at the counter, out of the blue she quoted the tracking number without even thinking about it. I asked her how she did it, she just stated that she has always been that way, photographic memory. Would it not be fair to say she was more potential that most of the 2%'s on these corporate boards. The way things are in our culture..the cream sometimes never gets to the top and we get feed milk instead of meat, and end up liking it.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
I don't see the USA as a 'Melting Pot' where everyone assimilates into one common culture.
In fact, in my travels across the USA I have seen and enjoyed a great diversity in culture.
I believe that the 'Melting Pot' is more focused on American Values rather than a American Culture.
Look at the values espoused in the chart in post 1 of this thread ... those are American Values.

Socialism is the opposite of American Values and that is why AOC says we must teardown and rebuild the "system".


I like this chart better than the one DIDO posted in post #4 because it has the Melting Pot as American whilst ...
the Salad Bowl as a representation of UK society.​
I was in UK for a time and I never got comfortable with different 'districts' with their own culture and values.
It is a useful comparison in which America is vastly superior IMO.
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Soup is much more nutritious than salad.

Salad only serves to expel :poop:.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
I assume most of you saw the chart posted in another thread that attempted to define Whiteness Culture.
I read through the chart several times and through the page where it was posted twice.
Something bothered me the entire time I was reading it and then it clicked!
They were talking about AMERICAN VALUES AND CULTURE!
When a person immigrates to the United States of America they are expected to 'assimilate' into the American Values and Culture.

National Museum of African American History & Culture (NMAAHC):
‘Hard Work, Objective Thinking, Being Polite’ Are Aspects of White Culture

I changed the chart to reflect AMERICAN VALUES & CULTURE
... some of the stuff I'm not in agreement with but I left it.

View attachment 302608
so when the natives were killed off by genocide, is that what you call "assimilation"?

you are either full of it or mental
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
dude this :censored2: recquires an education. dont you have a short list of talking points you can give the libs?

religion is bad
orange man is bad
rich people are bad
white people are bad
bad people are good
everything you said is typically correct except for maybe the white one.

howard zinn has said we live in a world where the values are inverted. the people in power should be in jail, and people in jail should be free.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
so when the natives were killed off by genocide, is that what you call "assimilation"?

you are either full of it or mental
We should have assimilated them instead of killing and transporting them but that's ancient history.
Another example of a group of people that did not assimilate to the American way.
Many of them wanted to continue to be hunter/gatherers instead of agrarian.
Their choice ... they lost!

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rickyb

Well-Known Member
We should have assimilated them instead of killing and transporting them but that's ancient history.
Another example of a group of people that did not assimilate to the American way.
Many of them wanted to continue to be hunter/gatherers instead of agrarian.
Their choice ... they lost!

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no its the invaders who didnt assimilate.

its sad you believe this crap. the US govt thinks it has a right to kill anyone around the world who doesnt do what is wants which is usually to serve power. under the obama admin, the US govt has started killing its own citizens in the 3rd world. soon it will start killing its own citizens in the first world and probably its own country.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
I assume most of you saw the chart posted in another thread that attempted to define Whiteness Culture.
I read through the chart several times and through the page where it was posted twice.
Something bothered me the entire time I was reading it and then it clicked!
They were talking about AMERICAN VALUES AND CULTURE!
When a person immigrates to the United States of America they are expected to 'assimilate' into the American Values and Culture.

National Museum of African American History & Culture (NMAAHC):
‘Hard Work, Objective Thinking, Being Polite’ Are Aspects of White Culture

I changed the chart to reflect AMERICAN VALUES & CULTURE
... some of the stuff I'm not in agreement with but I left it.

View attachment 302608
what a dumb thing to say anyways, you think american culture has always been like this? its changing and will keep changing.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
no its the invaders who didnt assimilate.

its sad you believe this crap. the US govt thinks it has a right to kill anyone around the world who doesnt do what is wants which is usually to serve power. under the obama admin, the US govt has started killing its own citizens in the 3rd world. soon it will start killing its own citizens in the first world and probably its own country.
OK :backingout:
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
If you lower the bar enough everybody is inclusive and equal. What happens when somebody comes along and has extraordinary abilities in any field, what would we as a society do them?

I remember several years ago we had a security guard who to wanted to pick up a package at the counter, out of the blue she quoted the tracking number without even thinking about it. I asked her how she did it, she just stated that she has always been that way, photographic memory. Would it not be fair to say she was more potential that most of the 2%'s on these corporate boards. The way things are in our culture..the cream sometimes never gets to the top and we get feed milk instead of meat, and end up liking it.
A photographic memory is good for gambling but without experience and good judgment, it is little more than a curiosity, as in Rain Man.
 
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