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<blockquote data-quote="bacha29" data-source="post: 4754235" data-attributes="member: 58386">Excellent point. Nobody knows better than you just how dirty and expensive to clean up Canadian tar sand oil is. As a refinery worker it&#039;s my hope that you will be able to make it to retirement before the transition to renewables and AV&#039;s is complete. It&#039;s like coal fired power plants. When a license expires it&#039;s not often renewed. The reason is simple. They&#039;re simply too damn expensive to operate. In a few years we&#039;ve gone from 540 coal plants down to the low 200&#039;s and they&#039;ll be gone in a few years. They and their 300 man workforce needed to run them are being replaced with gas units that are quick and easy to setup and run and employ only a couple of dozen people at the most. In the neighboring county a company is preparing to setup a dual gas turbine power plant in an long abandoned railroad locomotive shop and employ 20. And in my county there are 3 permits pending for 3 new power plants...all 3 are solar.As more states deregulate their their electric utility industries and rates the old coal and nukes will continue to go away.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bacha29, post: 4754235, member: 58386"] Excellent point. Nobody knows better than you just how dirty and expensive to clean up Canadian tar sand oil is. As a refinery worker it's my hope that you will be able to make it to retirement before the transition to renewables and AV's is complete. It's like coal fired power plants. When a license expires it's not often renewed. The reason is simple. They're simply too damn expensive to operate. In a few years we've gone from 540 coal plants down to the low 200's and they'll be gone in a few years. They and their 300 man workforce needed to run them are being replaced with gas units that are quick and easy to setup and run and employ only a couple of dozen people at the most. In the neighboring county a company is preparing to setup a dual gas turbine power plant in an long abandoned railroad locomotive shop and employ 20. And in my county there are 3 permits pending for 3 new power plants...all 3 are solar. As more states deregulate their their electric utility industries and rates the old coal and nukes will continue to go away. [/QUOTE]

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