Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="refineryworker05" data-source="post: 4768135" data-attributes="member: 66082">Yeah I mean the writing is on the wall for this industry. GM just announced that all their cars will be zero emission in 14 years, stuff like that portends the serious decline of this industry. I’ll just be in my early 60’s by 2035. Plus I gotta wonder what happens to my pension if this industry goes belly up after I retire. I may switch careers, and I have applied to various jobs and even got two job offers,, but the pay for both jobs was like $35 an hour which would be a huge pay cut for me. Plus I got a lot of vacation weeks, decent healthcare, etc. Although due to the refinery pay cut a lot people are retiring Because their pensions are in part based on their last 3 years of earnings. So despite the down economy, where I work is hiring and promoting people for now.These refineries don’t employ that many workers already. I think it’s like 35,000 full time refinery Oil workers in the USW Union.&nbsp; That’s not the employment of the whole oil and gas industry which is probably in the millions, but just the number of petroleum refinery oil workers. The only value we have to the nation is that as long as gasoline remains the dominate way we fuel vehicles, then the US doesn’t want to depend on other nation’s producing the fuel we need, but as the need for gasoline and diesel and jet fuel drops, that national value decreases as well. So the remaining refineries will either convert to supply other products or they’ll die. Pretending that an incompetent, corrupt Republican potus can stop these trends is just living in a delusional fantasy world.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="refineryworker05, post: 4768135, member: 66082"] Yeah I mean the writing is on the wall for this industry. GM just announced that all their cars will be zero emission in 14 years, stuff like that portends the serious decline of this industry. I’ll just be in my early 60’s by 2035. Plus I gotta wonder what happens to my pension if this industry goes belly up after I retire. I may switch careers, and I have applied to various jobs and even got two job offers,, but the pay for both jobs was like $35 an hour which would be a huge pay cut for me. Plus I got a lot of vacation weeks, decent healthcare, etc. Although due to the refinery pay cut a lot people are retiring Because their pensions are in part based on their last 3 years of earnings. So despite the down economy, where I work is hiring and promoting people for now. These refineries don’t employ that many workers already. I think it’s like 35,000 full time refinery Oil workers in the USW Union. That’s not the employment of the whole oil and gas industry which is probably in the millions, but just the number of petroleum refinery oil workers. The only value we have to the nation is that as long as gasoline remains the dominate way we fuel vehicles, then the US doesn’t want to depend on other nation’s producing the fuel we need, but as the need for gasoline and diesel and jet fuel drops, that national value decreases as well. So the remaining refineries will either convert to supply other products or they’ll die. Pretending that an incompetent, corrupt Republican potus can stop these trends is just living in a delusional fantasy world. [/QUOTE]

Verification