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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 6083563" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>There are men everywhere who say and do improper things towards women.  I'm talking about a religion that subjugated women to being under direct control of men.  Women can't leave home unless covered head to toe and accompanied by a male relative.  Not allowed to drive.  Not allowed to go to school.  Can only hold menial jobs if allowed to work.  Not all Muslim countries are super strict but if you compare them with the West even the more open societies still put restraints on women that wouldn't be acceptable in the West.  Do you have sex with your Muslim girlfriend?  That would get her killed in many Muslim countries.  Not a matter of if.  You keep wanting to say yeah, the West is bad too but sounds to me you aren't aware if the reality of life for women in many Muslim countries.</p></blockquote><p></p>