center manager doesn't understand how Mychoice works.

[superballs63]

So last week I was running a route for a driver on vacation. I pull up to an apartment building that I almost always dr whenever I'm in that area. When I scanned the package it came up saying that the consignee has requested the package to be released. The bid driver had not released it the prior Friday, and the consignee left a long letter whining that it was pet meds and blah blah blah.

So, today when I saw the driver I told him to just DR that stuff, and he said he didn't want to be held responsible IF it got stolen. I said that with mychoice, the consignee is accepting responsibility if that were to happen.

So, he went to our center manager and asked, and the center manager said that IF the package were to be stolen, we would be held responsible.

Either my center manager is an idiot (likely), OR mychoice is a complete waste (also likely)

 

[Jackburton]

We had a 30+ page DIAD training for MyChoice about a year or so ago, were you guys off?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

MyChoice transfers liability to consignee.


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[The Other Side]

It surprises's you that a member of management doesnt understand the very programs UPS offers??

are you new??

From the top down, most managers dont have the first clue how any program works.

TOS.

 

[Wally]

Part of the problem is that nothing is ever really explained. They wait to the last second to do DIAD training so no one pays attention. Everyone is scanning through just to get it done.

Here's an idea. At the PCM, explain things once in a while instead of wasting time talking about how many backs we had as a center, etc.

 

[Packmule]

So last week I was running a route for a driver on vacation. I pull up to an apartment building that I almost always dr whenever I'm in that area. When I scanned the package it came up saying that the consignee has requested the package to be released. The bid driver had not released it the prior Friday, and the consignee left a long letter whining that it was pet meds and blah blah blah.

So, today when I saw the driver I told him to just DR that stuff, and he said he didn't want to be held responsible IF it got stolen. I said that with mychoice, the consignee is accepting responsibility if that were to happen.

So, he went to our center manager and asked, and the center manager said that IF the package were to be stolen, we would be held responsible.

Either my center manager is an idiot (likely), OR mychoice is a complete waste (also likely)

You are correct.

 

[IlllIIllIIlllIllIIIlIlIlI]

How are they allowed to to put in they they want packages left at an apartment building. If one person wants to have their left and signs up for mychoice, wouldn't the diad tell you to leave every package, even packages for other units?

 

[bumped]

How are they allowed to to put in they they want packages left at an apartment building. If one person wants to have their left and signs up for mychoice, wouldn't the diad tell you to leave every package, even packages for other units?

No, only the individuals parcels are designated for My Choice. You could have multiple packages going to the same house/apartment/wherever and only certain packages could be released per My Choice. Its whatever packages the customer signed off on.

 

[blackcircle]

How are they allowed to to put in they they want packages left at an apartment building. If one person wants to have their left and signs up for mychoice, wouldn't the diad tell you to leave every package, even packages for other units?

Unit numbers? When you sign up for MyChoice it pulls your credit history and asks you questions to verify both your identity and your residence.

MyChoice is UPS' wet dream... get people to use an app on their phone to eliminate liability and allow them to make one attempt on a package. The "intercept" feature to send a package to a UPS Store is friend'n stupid, here even if you can dig the box out of a bricked out load the clerk won't reroute it until the driver has likely left. I'm sure the customer loves the extra day delay they've put on themselves.

 

[IlllIIllIIlllIllIIIlIlIlI]

Unit numbers? When you sign up for MyChoice it pulls your credit history and asks you questions to verify both your identity and your residence.

MyChoice is UPS' wet dream... get people to use an app on their phone to eliminate liability and allow them to make one attempt on a package. The "intercept" feature to send a package to a UPS Store is friend'n stupid, here even if you can dig the box out of a bricked out load the clerk won't reroute it until the driver has likely left. I'm sure the customer loves the extra day delay they've put on themselves.

Apartment number. If you're address is 666 9th st, apartment 69, when you sign up for mychoice, wouldn't it mark 666 9th st as an always DR address?

 

[30yearstolife]

The bid driver had not released it the prior Friday, and the consignee left a long letter whining that it was pet meds and blah blah blah.

So, today when I saw the driver I told him to just DR that stuff, and he said he didn't want to be held responsible IF it got stolen. I said that with mychoice, the consignee is accepting responsibility if that were to happen.

So, he went to our center manager and asked, and the center manager said that IF the package were to be stolen, we would be held responsible.

Either my center manager is an idiot (likely), OR mychoice is a complete waste (also likely)

There are 2 types of liability the center manager and/or driver might be considering. Yes, the cost of the stolen package would be born by the Mychoice consignee. But the other liability is the possible misuse of pet medications by the person stealing the package. UPS's liability (or lack there of) is not so clear when dealing with pet medications. UPS just paid a huge penalty last year for not properly delivering (human) prescriptions. Delivering pet medications can pose similar problems and liabilities. I had the police seize a package of animal meds that a dirt-bag on my route was supposedly going to use for a date-rape drug. We are not obligated to DR Mychoice packages if there are other reasons not to DR the package.

 

[bumped]

Apartment number. If you're address is 666 9th st, apartment 69, when you sign up for mychoice, wouldn't it mark 666 9th st as an always DR address?

No, its per package. You have to release that package to be a DR. You can also release to a DR and specify where you want it left (FD, BD, Garage, etc.)

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

How are they allowed to to put in they they want packages left at an apartment building. If one person wants to have their left and signs up for mychoice, wouldn't the diad tell you to leave every package, even packages for other units?

No. MyChoice selections are made by the consignee for a specific tracking number.

BTW, if you don't feel it is a safe DR, you can override the e-sdn.

 

[Tired Driver]

No. MyChoice selections are made by the consignee for a specific tracking number.

BTW, if you don't feel it is a safe DR, you can override the e-sdn.

It does not matter if it is a safe DR or not. The customer wants the pkg left. The only time I would not leave it is when I could not keep is safe from weather on a rainy day. This is what UPS My Choice is all about.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

It does not matter if it is a safe DR or not. The customer wants the pkg left. The only time I would not leave it is when I could not keep is safe from weather on a rainy day. This is what UPS My Choice is all about.

We still need to follow established DR methods.

 

[ZQXC]

We still need to follow established DR methods.

We still need to follow all established DR methods.
That is correct.

 

[Tired Driver]

We still need to follow established DR methods.

My Choice is like a surepost pkg. No signature need. Dr on 1st attempt and kept it out of the weather. The driver is not responsible for it. The customer accepts all responsibility for the pkg.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

My Choice is like a surepost pkg. No signature need. Dr on 1st attempt and kept it out of the weather. The driver is not responsible for it. The customer accepts all responsibility for the pkg.

I heard a couple of drivers talking about a stop on a rural run where the consignee requested the packages be DR'd to the front door; unfortunately, there was no way you could safely get to the front door.

 

[Tired Driver]

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