1980,
You get one salary in the APWA structure period it'll be very easy to understand. No multiple "jobs" w/pay allowed. Also, 1980 the pension numbers are LESS then what the Machinists get now. How do they do that? They don't waste their members dues! The APWA numbers are mid range. If you need help translating what the APWA has put on their site them ask for it. It's not overly complicated by any means.
The IBT has lied to you and you have sucked it up day in and day out. Some people just want to be used. Perhaps this discribes you? As for talk is cheap you're right, the difference is who is doing the talking? APWA or IBT, the IBT has proven itself to specialize in cheap talk time and time again.
This one vs. the other debate continues. Bottom line is this, there are thousands of reform minded teamsters out there, that on a daily basis are tryiing to educate our fellow UPS'ers as to the numerous issues regarding the corrupt leadership within the Teamsters. Unifying them all,to bring about reform, has been an uphill battle, just as your organizing effort to decertify these same unionized workers will be. In fact, your job will be much harder. The mere fact that the APWA can only present a case of writing on paper, postings on a website, or an answered phone call, will be a hard sell. We have a contract that pays well, holidays, vacations, personals, sick days, overtime rates, seniority rights, etc. etc. But like you said, some people will suck anything up, and just want to be used. So you'll manage to get some to feed from your troft of "Paper Tiger" promises. So BRAVO to you! Just remember this, for those that you don't manage to decertify, will remain Teamsters, and while you'd have everyone believe that the UPS will willingly negotiate this perfect contract, with the APWA's perfect representatives,
it's highly unlikely. In fact, it may even come down to the APWA having to strike for all these demands. Now tell me my friend, will you expect those same Teamsters that you have nothing good to say, to honor your picket lines? There is much, much more to all of this than you, or your representaives care to discuss. So, if you were all truly of a unoinized mind, you would realize the importance of having the support of other unions and their members, including us Teamsters.