Home
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Members
Current visitors
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe Community Center
Current Events
Christianity
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="BrownFlush" data-source="post: 5933791" data-attributes="member: 65823"><p>Second part of Eph 2:8 [USER=75786]@FromOffTheStreets[/USER] </p><p>The acceptance of grace lies solely with the individual. There is no "forced acceptance"</p><p>Grace saves through faith. The faith that saves is not some mental accent. That is a dead faith. Whatever is required by faith is mandatory to being saved by grace. </p><p>Faith is something you must do, you are solely responsible for faith. Paul wrote, “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness . . .” (Romans 10:10). The literal wording here would be, “for with the heart it is believed,” or that the belief is exercised with the heart of man.</p><p> Calvin's doctrine of God’s absolute sovereignty over the will of man cannot believe Paul’s statement. Faith is not a gift of God, it is a responsive act of a person. Without God’s revealed word, faith would be impossible, because faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God (Romans 10:17)</p><p>The only kind of faith that saves is a working faith. Paul wrote to the Galatian churches, “For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth anything, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love” (Gal. 5:6). This is an “operable faith.” This is the only valid faith and anything short of it will not save. This work isn't about what a human being can boast about. There are no meritorious or sacramental works involved. To love the Lord means one must keep His commandments (John 14:21). This includes a turning away from sin, an open confession with the mouth that Jesus is the Christ and submission to baptism in water for the remission of sins (Acts 17:30; Romans 10:9; Acts 2:38).</p><p>Salvation by grace through faith neither nullifies obedience nor eliminates grace. Two important questions about such salvation you need to get. When is an accountable individual saved by faith and how is one justified by faith? Paul said that it is “not of works lest any man should boast.” This does not include anything and everything one can do. This doesn't mean that there is nothing you can do to be saved and anyone who does anything is trying to earn salvation, and so nullifying grace. Thee things about this...</p><p>1. There is no scriptural support for it.</p><p>2. If there is nothing for individuals to do for the saving of their souls, how is it that God saves some and not others? Is God a respecter of persons? (Acts 10:34-35).</p><p>3. To believe this, it is directly contrary to what the New Testament plainly says about obedience to God’s commands (Heb. 5:9).</p><p>There is no greater truth than the fact that we are saved by grace – but there is no uglier lie than the assumption that we are saved by grace only. There is not one instance in all of the Bible where anyone was blessed because of their faith before that faith became operative in obedience to God’s commands. Faith that does not obey does not save. It is a dead faith (Jas. 2:20-26).</p><p>In the transaction of a gift, there are two parties: the giver and the recipient. God is the gracious giver of salvation. He gives it through Christ to all who by faith will obey him and in doing so, receive the gift of salvation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownFlush, post: 5933791, member: 65823"] Second part of Eph 2:8 [USER=75786]@FromOffTheStreets[/USER] The acceptance of grace lies solely with the individual. There is no "forced acceptance" Grace saves through faith. The faith that saves is not some mental accent. That is a dead faith. Whatever is required by faith is mandatory to being saved by grace. Faith is something you must do, you are solely responsible for faith. Paul wrote, “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness . . .” (Romans 10:10). The literal wording here would be, “for with the heart it is believed,” or that the belief is exercised with the heart of man. Calvin's doctrine of God’s absolute sovereignty over the will of man cannot believe Paul’s statement. Faith is not a gift of God, it is a responsive act of a person. Without God’s revealed word, faith would be impossible, because faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God (Romans 10:17) The only kind of faith that saves is a working faith. Paul wrote to the Galatian churches, “For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth anything, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love” (Gal. 5:6). This is an “operable faith.” This is the only valid faith and anything short of it will not save. This work isn't about what a human being can boast about. There are no meritorious or sacramental works involved. To love the Lord means one must keep His commandments (John 14:21). This includes a turning away from sin, an open confession with the mouth that Jesus is the Christ and submission to baptism in water for the remission of sins (Acts 17:30; Romans 10:9; Acts 2:38). Salvation by grace through faith neither nullifies obedience nor eliminates grace. Two important questions about such salvation you need to get. When is an accountable individual saved by faith and how is one justified by faith? Paul said that it is “not of works lest any man should boast.” This does not include anything and everything one can do. This doesn't mean that there is nothing you can do to be saved and anyone who does anything is trying to earn salvation, and so nullifying grace. Thee things about this... 1. There is no scriptural support for it. 2. If there is nothing for individuals to do for the saving of their souls, how is it that God saves some and not others? Is God a respecter of persons? (Acts 10:34-35). 3. To believe this, it is directly contrary to what the New Testament plainly says about obedience to God’s commands (Heb. 5:9). There is no greater truth than the fact that we are saved by grace – but there is no uglier lie than the assumption that we are saved by grace only. There is not one instance in all of the Bible where anyone was blessed because of their faith before that faith became operative in obedience to God’s commands. Faith that does not obey does not save. It is a dead faith (Jas. 2:20-26). In the transaction of a gift, there are two parties: the giver and the recipient. God is the gracious giver of salvation. He gives it through Christ to all who by faith will obey him and in doing so, receive the gift of salvation. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe Community Center
Current Events
Christianity
Top
