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<blockquote data-quote="FromOffTheStreets" data-source="post: 5937173" data-attributes="member: 75786"><p>I'm supposed to believe (at least from flush & it seems like your in his group) that water baptism is when you join with Christ & actually become saved. Your sins are remitted at that point & you are not saved until this occurs. </p><p></p><p>The disciples never did this so we have to infer that they weren't actually saved. If we take flushes viewpoint. </p><p></p><p>Many others spoke in tounges and received the baptism of the holy spirit. Paul even wrote a couple chapters about it to the Corinthian church. </p><p></p><p>I agree with you that baptism is symbolic and it always occurs with those who believe. I don't believe that it is a saving act is all I'm saying.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FromOffTheStreets, post: 5937173, member: 75786"] I'm supposed to believe (at least from flush & it seems like your in his group) that water baptism is when you join with Christ & actually become saved. Your sins are remitted at that point & you are not saved until this occurs. The disciples never did this so we have to infer that they weren't actually saved. If we take flushes viewpoint. Many others spoke in tounges and received the baptism of the holy spirit. Paul even wrote a couple chapters about it to the Corinthian church. I agree with you that baptism is symbolic and it always occurs with those who believe. I don't believe that it is a saving act is all I'm saying. [/QUOTE]
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