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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 3324049" data-attributes="member: 63706">One by one, sure, everyone is replaceable. But it would be very difficult to replace everyone one by one at half pay. It&#039;s our nature to be dissatisfied with doing the same job as everyone else with less compensation (*cough* four-year progression *cough*). You could try to replace everyone at once and offer half pay to the replacements, but, the way things are at this point, I really don&#039;t see that being a possibility. That&#039;s where a union derives its strength, but at least a vast majority of us have to stand together.Your job is only as good as it is because the Union has negotiated on your behalf. If you take away from the Union&#039;s strength by not being willing to strike, then either the rest of us have to stand up for you, or the company will continue to chip away at our pay and benefits. Or possibly break up the Union all together. Then UPS will likely become no better an employer than WalMart.The first proposed changes to the contract the Union has offered appear to be trying to better address the harassment issue. If the company is using telematics to harass you, then grieve it.I&#039;m sure if the new contract is good enough, then yes, most people will vote yes. Even if things only stay the same, or get slightly worse, enough will probably vote yes to pass it, though I don&#039;t think everyone here would. That&#039;s really what we should spend our time discussing: Where is the line? When should we vote no? When should we be willing to strike? If we&#039;re all on the same page, we will be stronger for it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 3324049, member: 63706"] One by one, sure, everyone is replaceable. But it would be very difficult to replace everyone one by one at half pay. It's our nature to be dissatisfied with doing the same job as everyone else with less compensation (*cough* four-year progression *cough*). You could try to replace everyone at once and offer half pay to the replacements, but, the way things are at this point, I really don't see that being a possibility. That's where a union derives its strength, but at least a vast majority of us have to stand together. Your job is only as good as it is because the Union has negotiated on your behalf. If you take away from the Union's strength by not being willing to strike, then either the rest of us have to stand up for you, or the company will continue to chip away at our pay and benefits. Or possibly break up the Union all together. Then UPS will likely become no better an employer than WalMart. The first proposed changes to the contract the Union has offered appear to be trying to better address the harassment issue. If the company is using telematics to harass you, then grieve it. I'm sure if the new contract is good enough, then yes, most people will vote yes. Even if things only stay the same, or get slightly worse, enough will probably vote yes to pass it, though I don't think everyone here would. That's really what we should spend our time discussing: Where is the line? When should we vote no? When should we be willing to strike? If we're all on the same page, we will be stronger for it. [/QUOTE]

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