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<blockquote data-quote="freehoodies" data-source="post: 4531262" data-attributes="member: 80887"><p>The death stats are so inflated no one takes them seriously. Either you know that and are intentionally misleading people, or you haven't done your research. Here are some facts.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf</a></p><p>^CDC instructions to count deaths as coronavirus is suspected, without a requirement for a positive test. Comorbidities “can” be recorded, but do not have to be.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.mrctv.org/blog/ill-dph-director-even-if-patient-dies-clear-alternate-cause-testing-positive-covid-makes-it" target="_blank">Ill. DPH Director: Even If A Patient Dies of 'Clear Alternate Cause', Testing Positive for COVID Makes It A COVID Death</a></p><p>Illinois DPH states on camera deaths are WITH covid not necessarily OF covid</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/04/medical-experts-say-michigans-coronavirus-death-count-isnt-accurate-but-is-it-too-high-or-too-low.html" target="_blank">Medical experts say Michigan’s coronavirus death count isn’t accurate. But is it too high or too low?</a></p><p>Doctors explaining many deaths are WITH covid and obviously not OF covid</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.dailywire.com/news/report-washington-state-counted-gunshot-deaths-among-coronavirus-totals" target="_blank">Report: Washington State Counted Gunshot Deaths Among Coronavirus Totals</a></p><p>Wa gunshot victims added to deathcount</p><p>If 5 gunshot victims found their way onto the states official death count, its safe to say many other cases that weren't as obviously not covid made it onto the count as well. </p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-deaths-mount-trump-tries-to-convince-americans-its-safe-to-inch-back-to-normal/2020/05/09/bf024fe6-9149-11ea-a9c0-73b93422d691_story.html[/URL]</p><p> Birx and others were frustrated with the CDC’s antiquated system for tracking virus data, which they worried was inflating some statistics — such as mortality rate and case count — by as much as 25 percent, according to four people present for the discussion or later briefed on it. Two senior administration officials said the discussion was not heated.</p><p>“There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust,” Birx said, according to two of the people.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data-deaths.page[/URL]</p><p>Graphs of all of the data, even with the inflated numbers one thing is clear. If you are under the age of 65 with no underlying health conditions(read; Morbidly obese, diabetic, lung disease, heart disease, cancer), you have a .00004% chance of death (103 deaths under 65 with no underlying conditions out of 2,700,000 estimated cases from antibody tests. Adjusted for population statistics and 1 in 3 people being diabetic or prediabetic and that number goes DOWN.)</p><p></p><p>Its an election year, both sides are trying to use this dud of a virus as a club to beat the other side with it and make themselves look better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="freehoodies, post: 4531262, member: 80887"] The death stats are so inflated no one takes them seriously. Either you know that and are intentionally misleading people, or you haven't done your research. Here are some facts. [URL]https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/coronavirus/Alert-2-New-ICD-code-introduced-for-COVID-19-deaths.pdf[/URL] ^CDC instructions to count deaths as coronavirus is suspected, without a requirement for a positive test. Comorbidities “can” be recorded, but do not have to be. [URL="https://www.mrctv.org/blog/ill-dph-director-even-if-patient-dies-clear-alternate-cause-testing-positive-covid-makes-it"]Ill. DPH Director: Even If A Patient Dies of 'Clear Alternate Cause', Testing Positive for COVID Makes It A COVID Death[/URL] Illinois DPH states on camera deaths are WITH covid not necessarily OF covid [URL="https://www.mlive.com/public-interest/2020/04/medical-experts-say-michigans-coronavirus-death-count-isnt-accurate-but-is-it-too-high-or-too-low.html"]Medical experts say Michigan’s coronavirus death count isn’t accurate. But is it too high or too low?[/URL] Doctors explaining many deaths are WITH covid and obviously not OF covid [URL="https://www.dailywire.com/news/report-washington-state-counted-gunshot-deaths-among-coronavirus-totals"]Report: Washington State Counted Gunshot Deaths Among Coronavirus Totals[/URL] Wa gunshot victims added to deathcount If 5 gunshot victims found their way onto the states official death count, its safe to say many other cases that weren't as obviously not covid made it onto the count as well. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-deaths-mount-trump-tries-to-convince-americans-its-safe-to-inch-back-to-normal/2020/05/09/bf024fe6-9149-11ea-a9c0-73b93422d691_story.html[/URL] Birx and others were frustrated with the CDC’s antiquated system for tracking virus data, which they worried was inflating some statistics — such as mortality rate and case count — by as much as 25 percent, according to four people present for the discussion or later briefed on it. Two senior administration officials said the discussion was not heated. “There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust,” Birx said, according to two of the people. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data-deaths.page[/URL] Graphs of all of the data, even with the inflated numbers one thing is clear. If you are under the age of 65 with no underlying health conditions(read; Morbidly obese, diabetic, lung disease, heart disease, cancer), you have a .00004% chance of death (103 deaths under 65 with no underlying conditions out of 2,700,000 estimated cases from antibody tests. Adjusted for population statistics and 1 in 3 people being diabetic or prediabetic and that number goes DOWN.) Its an election year, both sides are trying to use this dud of a virus as a club to beat the other side with it and make themselves look better. [/QUOTE]
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