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<blockquote data-quote="rickyb" data-source="post: 4721100" data-attributes="member: 56035">neo wouldnt have been able to save them anyways if they didnt fight back so it was a combination of them being saved by someone powerful and them saving themselves.&nbsp; and again in the second movie they work together and only by working together do they succeed.&nbsp; its ridiculous to say its a movie about the salvation of mankind from collectivism especially considering hte writer / directors political leanings and some of the people they cast.&nbsp; collectivism vs individualism are definitely themes.&nbsp; no the matrix was what everyone thought was real IE it was a lie, so the machines could exploit them economically for their value.&nbsp; this is karl marx who said those who control the means of production control mental production, amongst other things.&nbsp; i view smith really as a monopolist who has exploited the earth to collapse which is what we are doing right now although he could be an example of the darkness within all of us.&nbsp; so to me the movie is saying were under control to make someone rich and most of what we believe may be a lie, these people are threatening us with environmental devastation, and if we rise up they threaten to kill us, and this is how you can fight back anyways.from wiki.&nbsp; the trilogy checks off most of these if not all:[ATTACH=full]322190[/ATTACH][URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism[/URL]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rickyb, post: 4721100, member: 56035"] neo wouldnt have been able to save them anyways if they didnt fight back so it was a combination of them being saved by someone powerful and them saving themselves. and again in the second movie they work together and only by working together do they succeed. its ridiculous to say its a movie about the salvation of mankind from collectivism especially considering hte writer / directors political leanings and some of the people they cast. collectivism vs individualism are definitely themes. no the matrix was what everyone thought was real IE it was a lie, so the machines could exploit them economically for their value. this is karl marx who said those who control the means of production control mental production, amongst other things. i view smith really as a monopolist who has exploited the earth to collapse which is what we are doing right now although he could be an example of the darkness within all of us. so to me the movie is saying were under control to make someone rich and most of what we believe may be a lie, these people are threatening us with environmental devastation, and if we rise up they threaten to kill us, and this is how you can fight back anyways. from wiki. the trilogy checks off most of these if not all: [ATTACH type="full" width="632px"]322190[/ATTACH] [URL unfurl="true"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Totalitarianism[/URL] [/QUOTE]

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