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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wilberforce15" data-source="post: 4932679" data-attributes="member: 5053">That's problem number one. The pro-vaccine crowd won't allow any good data to be collected. That's automatically a red flag of shady behavior. The risk of the vaccines can be triangulated a few ways for different crowds, but good direct data is almost impossible to get. The only reliable answer I have is that it's not a catastrophic high risk, and it's not as low risk as is alleged. Other than that, I don't know. But I do have very good information about how bad covid is for my demographic and for my kids' demographics. And that risk of covid is basically zero. Therefore, in the risk-reward calculation, I am happy to take the near-zero risk of the disease against the unknown (but probably still small) risk of the vaccine.</blockquote>