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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 6162685" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>Who were these Frontline doctors saying it was useless?  The vaccines over time were shown to not prevent infection or transmission.  But for a lot of people they also reduced the effects of covid.  In spite what some would have you believe some groups, especially the elderly, were susceptible to dying from covid.  What wasn't known at the start was who specifically were the vulnerable.  As time went by that became much clearer which was where the friction between red states and blue states started.  The blue states didn't want to give up their total control while red state administrations saw the shutdowns as doing more harm than good.</p></blockquote><p></p>