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<blockquote data-quote="newfie" data-source="post: 2645838" data-attributes="member: 58700">Your ranting is deterring us from the crux of your argument and thus you avoided answering my question. your post again that I responded to:I think the reasons our government has given is clear. the picture I posted is a stark reminder of what it is we hope to prevent.after 9/11 all you said came true. but since then there has certainly been a lessening of those restrictive actions. The TSA has found ways to screen us and yet lessen the delays. The whistle blowers like snowden and wiki leaks have highlighted abuses and certainly caused our government to take a less restrictive less intrusive approach. Any wonder that terrorist incidents have also increased here since. Nothing for 10 years after 9/11 much more so in todays world.but back to your quote again where then has the government dug more and more as you stated.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="newfie, post: 2645838, member: 58700"] Your ranting is deterring us from the crux of your argument and thus you avoided answering my question. your post again that I responded to: I think the reasons our government has given is clear. the picture I posted is a stark reminder of what it is we hope to prevent. after 9/11 all you said came true. but since then there has certainly been a lessening of those restrictive actions. The TSA has found ways to screen us and yet lessen the delays. The whistle blowers like snowden and wiki leaks have highlighted abuses and certainly caused our government to take a less restrictive less intrusive approach. Any wonder that terrorist incidents have also increased here since. Nothing for 10 years after 9/11 much more so in todays world. but back to your quote again where then has the government dug more and more as you stated. [/QUOTE]

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