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<blockquote data-quote="Artee" data-source="post: 4975171" data-attributes="member: 24351"><p>I have lost 3 uncles straight up from Covid-19. Yes, they had co-morbidities, but Covid-19 is the reason for their deaths when they died. I know a lot of people in healthcare, but I'm not sure what the point of this emotional question is trying to achieve. The fact that someone has lost family or know someone in a ED is moot to the facts.</p><p></p><p>You are just being obtuse. We know for sure, and it's not debated among professionals, that the mRNA vaccines have adverse effects, to include deaths. We can debate the numbers, but it's going to be pretty difficult to discount the hundreds of thousands of reported adverse effects from the mRNA vaccines just in the U.S.</p><p></p><p>So, we have a "vaccine" with known, significant adverse effects. THEN, we know that the vaccine DOES NOT inoculate one against the SARS-CoV-2 virus, itself. It was specifically designed to protect one against the spike protein that is a part of and on the outside the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The mRNA technology used by Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech induces cells in the recipient only to make a single spike protein that mimics the same spike protein from SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes COVID-19. None of the current COVID-19 vaccines produces a full intact coronavirus, not even a weakened one, as live-attenuated virus vaccines, such as the measles vaccine, use a weakened version of the measles virus.</p><p></p><p>We have just now, after 18 months, began openly using antibody infusions early in the infection process. We are requiring proof of vaccine cards to enter places, to make a living or to just buy food. A vaccine that does not provide inoculation against the virus and that is now necessary to have a 3rd booster shot, meaning it's efficacy fails. For $25, a person can go to a pharmacy, hospital or clinic and get an antibody test. Positive for antibodies is the ultimate way to determine if a person is inoculated against the virus AND the spike protein on the virus. But, no, we don't use that for really important method to determine the viral health of someone, we use a "vaccine" that we already know carries the same viral load as an unvaccinated person given SARS-CoV-2 viral infection in both.</p><p></p><p>We also know that a healthy person under the age of 65 has a 99.9% chance of not dying from a Covid-19 infection. So, you think someone should play russian roulette and choose something with a known adverse reaction and an unknown long-term adverse reaction effects, that is BRAND NEW, that does not inoculate against SARS-CoV-2, based on people that say a vaccine card is what is needed to determine the viral health vs using antibody testing.... and you infer that others have gone full <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Artee, post: 4975171, member: 24351"] I have lost 3 uncles straight up from Covid-19. Yes, they had co-morbidities, but Covid-19 is the reason for their deaths when they died. I know a lot of people in healthcare, but I'm not sure what the point of this emotional question is trying to achieve. The fact that someone has lost family or know someone in a ED is moot to the facts. You are just being obtuse. We know for sure, and it's not debated among professionals, that the mRNA vaccines have adverse effects, to include deaths. We can debate the numbers, but it's going to be pretty difficult to discount the hundreds of thousands of reported adverse effects from the mRNA vaccines just in the U.S. So, we have a "vaccine" with known, significant adverse effects. THEN, we know that the vaccine DOES NOT inoculate one against the SARS-CoV-2 virus, itself. It was specifically designed to protect one against the spike protein that is a part of and on the outside the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The mRNA technology used by Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech induces cells in the recipient only to make a single spike protein that mimics the same spike protein from SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that causes COVID-19. None of the current COVID-19 vaccines produces a full intact coronavirus, not even a weakened one, as live-attenuated virus vaccines, such as the measles vaccine, use a weakened version of the measles virus. We have just now, after 18 months, began openly using antibody infusions early in the infection process. We are requiring proof of vaccine cards to enter places, to make a living or to just buy food. A vaccine that does not provide inoculation against the virus and that is now necessary to have a 3rd booster shot, meaning it's efficacy fails. For $25, a person can go to a pharmacy, hospital or clinic and get an antibody test. Positive for antibodies is the ultimate way to determine if a person is inoculated against the virus AND the spike protein on the virus. But, no, we don't use that for really important method to determine the viral health of someone, we use a "vaccine" that we already know carries the same viral load as an unvaccinated person given SARS-CoV-2 viral infection in both. We also know that a healthy person under the age of 65 has a 99.9% chance of not dying from a Covid-19 infection. So, you think someone should play russian roulette and choose something with a known adverse reaction and an unknown long-term adverse reaction effects, that is BRAND NEW, that does not inoculate against SARS-CoV-2, based on people that say a vaccine card is what is needed to determine the viral health vs using antibody testing.... and you infer that others have gone full :censored:? [/QUOTE]
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