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<blockquote data-quote="Maui" data-source="post: 5006608" data-attributes="member: 45037"><p>I'm not aware of anything like this. Admittedly I haven't read everything so if you can provide a reputable source (even if preprint) that covers this kind of reaction to the vaccine I'd be happy to look at it. I'm curious how many times this was shown to have occurred and which vaccine the deceased received that would cause this.</p><p></p><p>For the record that's not how vaccines work. By design vaccines are meant to be in the body temporarily and hopefully create a lasting immune response. It is possible that the body could react and create an adverse reaction that has lasting consequences. Those are rare and again the response would develop within 2 months. Even if what you've said is validated nothing shows a long term effect outside of what we know within the first 8 weeks.</p><p></p><p>The approved COVID 19 vaccines are all intramuscular. That means they are injected into the muscles (arm) and generally remain localized there and in nearby lymph nodes. They aren't made to move to organs. The white cells developed in the lymphs are used for the immune response. Additionally, the partial protein is temporary near the injection and the IDSA shows this lasts only a few weeks.</p><p></p><p>I'm assuming you're writing this in good faith and I am interested in learning of adverse side effects that exist. I can't reiterate enough that the claim of "long term" effects are not a thing. If one doesn't have a reaction in the first 2 months they are almost certain not to have one. The approved vaccines in the US use different biotechnology and have had some different side effects. Most are mild, but based on one's health a professional might recommend one over the other and we have to be data driven to provide accurate information to people.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maui, post: 5006608, member: 45037"] I'm not aware of anything like this. Admittedly I haven't read everything so if you can provide a reputable source (even if preprint) that covers this kind of reaction to the vaccine I'd be happy to look at it. I'm curious how many times this was shown to have occurred and which vaccine the deceased received that would cause this. For the record that's not how vaccines work. By design vaccines are meant to be in the body temporarily and hopefully create a lasting immune response. It is possible that the body could react and create an adverse reaction that has lasting consequences. Those are rare and again the response would develop within 2 months. Even if what you've said is validated nothing shows a long term effect outside of what we know within the first 8 weeks. The approved COVID 19 vaccines are all intramuscular. That means they are injected into the muscles (arm) and generally remain localized there and in nearby lymph nodes. They aren't made to move to organs. The white cells developed in the lymphs are used for the immune response. Additionally, the partial protein is temporary near the injection and the IDSA shows this lasts only a few weeks. I'm assuming you're writing this in good faith and I am interested in learning of adverse side effects that exist. I can't reiterate enough that the claim of "long term" effects are not a thing. If one doesn't have a reaction in the first 2 months they are almost certain not to have one. The approved vaccines in the US use different biotechnology and have had some different side effects. Most are mild, but based on one's health a professional might recommend one over the other and we have to be data driven to provide accurate information to people. [/QUOTE]
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