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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4928472" data-attributes="member: 63706">My posts require very little effort on my part. Yet you claim to be exhausted. I wonder what an outside observer would think about that.You still haven&#039;t explained what I&#039;m not being sensible about. I get that you decided to get the shot without thinking it through, and now you&#039;re seeing that other people have very good points about not getting it, and that makes you worried, and you just want some confirmation that you didn&#039;t just destroy your life because peer pressure. Ok. My hope is that the toll isn&#039;t that bad, and even if it is, I hope it doesn&#039;t affect you. That&#039;s about as much reassurance as I can give you.Do I? Like I&#039;ve said, I have had plenty of vaccines, probably more than you, and if I felt a need to get another one, I would. There is just not enough safety track record for this &quot;vaccine&quot; for me to come to the decision to get it. I know, I know, I should calm down, I&#039;m being hysterical.I have always believed, and will continue to believe, that people should have a choice in all their medical decisions, and that no one should have any power to coerce people to do something against their will. It&#039;s not difficult.I have seen enough evidence to know there is a risk of complications, weighed against the risks of contracting the virus, vs the entirety of my health status, weighed against the desperation that the government and pharma are displaying in getting people to take it, all adds up to a big fat no from me.I know it can be dangerous, and I hope that over the next 5 or more years, it proves not to be more dangerous than you believe it to be, but I think you&#039;re underestimating the risk as is.I&#039;m not going to argue the statistics with you, because I don&#039;t trust your source and it would be pointless. We&#039;ve covered the &quot;what&#039;s actually in the shot&quot; argument before. Carbon and Nitrogen are essential to life, but put them together just right, and you get cyanide. Water is essential to life, yet 236,000 people died from drowning in it in 2019. Iron is necessary for human life, but you add a little carbon, heat it up and sharpen it, it becomes deadly. So, on the face of it, you &quot;nothing dangerous in the shot&quot; argument doesn&#039;t stand up. I&#039;m not going to bother looking up every compound you listed to find an &quot;A ha!&quot;That&#039;s what you think. I avoid airplanes whenever possible too, and I certainly don&#039;t believe people should be forced to take airplane rides if they don&#039;t want to. Not a solid argument.You never made any, and I responded to all of your nebulous ones by telling you that I never said the things you were claiming I said.You counted the words? Or just being hyperbolic? Maybe OCD as well?I use hyperbolic rhetoric, but you still haven&#039;t shown where I made a hyperbolic claim in this thread. I&#039;m waiting. If you didn&#039;t keep changing the subject you might not be so exhausted.Ok.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4928472, member: 63706"] My posts require very little effort on my part. Yet you claim to be exhausted. I wonder what an outside observer would think about that. You still haven't explained what I'm not being sensible about. I get that you decided to get the shot without thinking it through, and now you're seeing that other people have very good points about not getting it, and that makes you worried, and you just want some confirmation that you didn't just destroy your life because peer pressure. Ok. My hope is that the toll isn't that bad, and even if it is, I hope it doesn't affect you. That's about as much reassurance as I can give you. Do I? Like I've said, I have had plenty of vaccines, probably more than you, and if I felt a need to get another one, I would. There is just not enough safety track record for this "vaccine" for me to come to the decision to get it. I know, I know, I should calm down, I'm being hysterical. I have always believed, and will continue to believe, that people should have a choice in all their medical decisions, and that no one should have any power to coerce people to do something against their will. It's not difficult. I have seen enough evidence to know there is a risk of complications, weighed against the risks of contracting the virus, vs the entirety of my health status, weighed against the desperation that the government and pharma are displaying in getting people to take it, all adds up to a big fat no from me. I know it can be dangerous, and I hope that over the next 5 or more years, it proves not to be more dangerous than you believe it to be, but I think you're underestimating the risk as is. I'm not going to argue the statistics with you, because I don't trust your source and it would be pointless. We've covered the "what's actually in the shot" argument before. Carbon and Nitrogen are essential to life, but put them together just right, and you get cyanide. Water is essential to life, yet 236,000 people died from drowning in it in 2019. Iron is necessary for human life, but you add a little carbon, heat it up and sharpen it, it becomes deadly. So, on the face of it, you "nothing dangerous in the shot" argument doesn't stand up. I'm not going to bother looking up every compound you listed to find an "A ha!" That's what you think. I avoid airplanes whenever possible too, and I certainly don't believe people should be forced to take airplane rides if they don't want to. Not a solid argument. You never made any, and I responded to all of your nebulous ones by telling you that I never said the things you were claiming I said. You counted the words? Or just being hyperbolic? Maybe OCD as well? I use hyperbolic rhetoric, but you still haven't shown where I made a hyperbolic claim in this thread. I'm waiting. If you didn't keep changing the subject you might not be so exhausted. Ok. [/QUOTE]

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