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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4939180" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>How deadly does the "solution" have to be before you relinquish forcing your desire that others risk their own lives to help you feel safer?</p><p></p><p>Who has the authority to decide what regulations are necessary and good, and why? </p><p></p><p>How many examples of "authorities" forcing people to do things, leading to unimaginable atrocities, do you need before you start to lay the blame at the right feet? Which crazy libertarians were responsible for funding illegal virus research? Which crazy libertarian is responsible for sloppy safety protocols leading to the release of a synthetic virus?</p><p></p><p>And both rights and regulations are important. Everyone has a right not to be infected by a man made virus, which is why the regulation against that type of experimentation was passed. It wasn't a crazy libertarian who ignored that regulation.</p><p></p><p>You see, it's not individuals insisting on that everyone's rights be respected who are the problem, It's the people in power who ignore the rights of others, and believe they are above the regulations who are the problem. These also happen to be the same people telling you the vaccine is safe and effective.</p><p></p><p>I appreciate and respect the passion and enthusiasm you have for protecting those around you. I feel the same, I just don't see how submitting to group think and believing people in power who have proven many times over not to be trustworthy are the best ways to protect those around me. So let's focus the blame where we can do the most good for protecting our loved ones.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Who's whining? Last I checked, I was saying no one should be forced to vaccinate, and I've been pointing out the sorts of things that can happen when people accept the idea of forced vaccination. In case you haven't noticed, lots of people still think it's a good idea, so I better sound the alarm now, rather than wait until it's too late.</p><p></p><p>The way I see it, I care far more for the safety and well-being of others than people who virtue-signal about how great they are for having consented to medical experimentation without compensation. The chances of someone else getting hurt as a result of me not getting the shot are statistically non-existent, whereas the chances of me getting hurt or killed by the vaccine, however low, still register, not to mention we don't know the true extent of harm over the long term. You have to make the best decisions you can, based on the information you find credible, to keep yourself healthy first. You can't help anyone else of you are hurt or dead.</p><p></p><p>Am I getting what I want? Where did you get that idea? If the FDA approves the vaccines, people like me are going to have to fight tooth and nail, risking everything, just to protect everyone's right to choose what medical treatment's and procedures we will be subjected to. All the while, we will be enduring the scorn of people who don't care about anyone's rights.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4939180, member: 63706"] How deadly does the "solution" have to be before you relinquish forcing your desire that others risk their own lives to help you feel safer? Who has the authority to decide what regulations are necessary and good, and why? How many examples of "authorities" forcing people to do things, leading to unimaginable atrocities, do you need before you start to lay the blame at the right feet? Which crazy libertarians were responsible for funding illegal virus research? Which crazy libertarian is responsible for sloppy safety protocols leading to the release of a synthetic virus? And both rights and regulations are important. Everyone has a right not to be infected by a man made virus, which is why the regulation against that type of experimentation was passed. It wasn't a crazy libertarian who ignored that regulation. You see, it's not individuals insisting on that everyone's rights be respected who are the problem, It's the people in power who ignore the rights of others, and believe they are above the regulations who are the problem. These also happen to be the same people telling you the vaccine is safe and effective. I appreciate and respect the passion and enthusiasm you have for protecting those around you. I feel the same, I just don't see how submitting to group think and believing people in power who have proven many times over not to be trustworthy are the best ways to protect those around me. So let's focus the blame where we can do the most good for protecting our loved ones. Who's whining? Last I checked, I was saying no one should be forced to vaccinate, and I've been pointing out the sorts of things that can happen when people accept the idea of forced vaccination. In case you haven't noticed, lots of people still think it's a good idea, so I better sound the alarm now, rather than wait until it's too late. The way I see it, I care far more for the safety and well-being of others than people who virtue-signal about how great they are for having consented to medical experimentation without compensation. The chances of someone else getting hurt as a result of me not getting the shot are statistically non-existent, whereas the chances of me getting hurt or killed by the vaccine, however low, still register, not to mention we don't know the true extent of harm over the long term. You have to make the best decisions you can, based on the information you find credible, to keep yourself healthy first. You can't help anyone else of you are hurt or dead. Am I getting what I want? Where did you get that idea? If the FDA approves the vaccines, people like me are going to have to fight tooth and nail, risking everything, just to protect everyone's right to choose what medical treatment's and procedures we will be subjected to. All the while, we will be enduring the scorn of people who don't care about anyone's rights. [/QUOTE]
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