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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 3977909" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>The only program I&#039;ll be collecting anything from is Social Security.&nbsp; SS was the law of the land before I was born and I paid into it my entire working life.&nbsp; We&#039;ve had this discussion before and I pointed the same thing before.&nbsp; You used to say that conservatives like me shouldn&#039;t get anything from SS because we don&#039;t believe in it.&nbsp; You literally want us to pay into it but not get anything back.&nbsp; But I&#039;ve repeatedly said SS is the best idea Democrats ever had and I have always supported it.&nbsp; It&#039;s a seperate program from the Federal budget and is self sustaining.&nbsp; Or would be if Congress hadn&#039;t started spending it&#039;s funds for other things.&nbsp; And there&#039;s the rub.&nbsp; You want to keep spending as if there aren&#039;t any limits to what is sustainable.&nbsp; And you want to change the economic system that provides the capital necessary to fund your programs.&nbsp; It&#039;s not a matter of you being evil.&nbsp; Saying that is just a way of smearing conservatives.&nbsp; It&#039;s a matter of you being unwise.&nbsp; As a conservative I want to conserve Social Security, a program that protects seniors.&nbsp; I want a Federal budget that is sustainable so that the whole thing doesn&#039;t collapse.&nbsp; You waste a lot of energy trying to portray conservatives as the truly evil ones and yet your focus is on the wrong thing.&nbsp; There&#039;s a coming revolution in how business is done that will affect everyone and may ruin Social Security and a lot of other programs.&nbsp; Automation and robotics.&nbsp; Business wants to eliminate as many jobs as possible and the pay and taxes that go with them.&nbsp; And don&#039;t say it&#039;s all on conservatives because Big Tech is full of liberals too.&nbsp; Things are going to get ugly when people realize they are being displaced.&nbsp; Being in a developing nation where jobs pay very little just might be the safest place to be.&nbsp; And we wonder why those in power who are in bed with Silicon Valley want our guns?</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 3977909, member: 24302"] The only program I'll be collecting anything from is Social Security. SS was the law of the land before I was born and I paid into it my entire working life. We've had this discussion before and I pointed the same thing before. You used to say that conservatives like me shouldn't get anything from SS because we don't believe in it. You literally want us to pay into it but not get anything back. But I've repeatedly said SS is the best idea Democrats ever had and I have always supported it. It's a seperate program from the Federal budget and is self sustaining. Or would be if Congress hadn't started spending it's funds for other things. And there's the rub. You want to keep spending as if there aren't any limits to what is sustainable. And you want to change the economic system that provides the capital necessary to fund your programs. It's not a matter of you being evil. Saying that is just a way of smearing conservatives. It's a matter of you being unwise. As a conservative I want to conserve Social Security, a program that protects seniors. I want a Federal budget that is sustainable so that the whole thing doesn't collapse. You waste a lot of energy trying to portray conservatives as the truly evil ones and yet your focus is on the wrong thing. There's a coming revolution in how business is done that will affect everyone and may ruin Social Security and a lot of other programs. Automation and robotics. Business wants to eliminate as many jobs as possible and the pay and taxes that go with them. And don't say it's all on conservatives because Big Tech is full of liberals too. Things are going to get ugly when people realize they are being displaced. Being in a developing nation where jobs pay very little just might be the safest place to be. And we wonder why those in power who are in bed with Silicon Valley want our guns? [/QUOTE]

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