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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1411304" data-attributes="member: 2189">That list is endless IMO.&nbsp; But being I have to leave for work in about 30 minutes.....Rebuild local institutions and communities.&nbsp; The stronger one can be locally, the better for all IMO.&nbsp; When families and local communities were undermined, the very nature of the strongest safety net was removed right from our midst.&nbsp; It&#039;s no wonder people turned away from each other and turned to the only thing left and that was the state itself.&nbsp; Both the state and the industrial economy wanted compliant and submissive citizens because an independent and self dependent society would in many cases tell power at the top to go pound sand.&nbsp; There&#039;s more there but for now.Decentralize power at the top.&nbsp; We likely agree that the concentration of wealth creates negative consequences and power is no different.&nbsp; The same so-called 1% which holds the wealth also holds the power.&nbsp; Left and Right is completely meaningless here.&nbsp; It only serves to keep us fighting and at each others throats while we get screwed.&nbsp; And yet we act shocked when both benefit from more growth while the rest of us suffer even more.&nbsp; Even worse each side defends it&#039;s respective place master like some Stockholm Syndrome victim. When wealth was more spread out in years gone by, what was the nature of power at the so-called top as regards to national power?&nbsp; As wealth concentrated more, what happened to power?&nbsp; What was the state of families and local communities before wealth and power concentrated and what of it now?&nbsp; As I see it, there&#039;s a relationship here and this has been observed historically by many.By bringing power back locally which builds local autonomy, this actually begins to re-engage people because now they can see a more direct vested interest in such outcomes as you would want elections to have.&nbsp; The larger in scale something goes, the more disconnected and isolated it&#039;s members begin to sense and feel.&nbsp;&nbsp; Gov&#039;t, a business, an organization, a religion, take anything up in scale and the outcome of people are the same IMO.&nbsp; How do we feel at UPS as it relates to us and what the folks at 55 Glenlake think?&nbsp; That scale of isolation down to the human level is everywhere.&nbsp; Same is true for corruption and&nbsp; abuse.&nbsp; Criminals and psychopaths like the shadows and lack of transparency where they can&#039;t be seen.&nbsp; Fact is, they become more criminal as the wealth and power they hold grows.&nbsp; They see the rest of us as adversary and something to suppress in order to safeguard their own place.That&#039;s just one example of many that people might give pause and consideration too.&nbsp; There is no &quot;one idea fixes all.&quot;&nbsp; This is why size and centralization fails.&nbsp; What works for me may well not work for you.&nbsp; Another idea may not work for either one of us.&nbsp; Centralization has always failed and always will.&nbsp; The solution is the freedom and liberty for each of us to seek our own solutions or work mutually with family, friends and neighbors to do the same.&nbsp; This is moving into the non aggression axiom that opposes force at all levels but that is a whole other matter as I said earlier.Time for work.&nbsp; Sleep tight!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1411304, member: 2189"] That list is endless IMO. But being I have to leave for work in about 30 minutes..... Rebuild local institutions and communities. The stronger one can be locally, the better for all IMO. When families and local communities were undermined, the very nature of the strongest safety net was removed right from our midst. It's no wonder people turned away from each other and turned to the only thing left and that was the state itself. Both the state and the industrial economy wanted compliant and submissive citizens because an independent and self dependent society would in many cases tell power at the top to go pound sand. There's more there but for now. Decentralize power at the top. We likely agree that the concentration of wealth creates negative consequences and power is no different. The same so-called 1% which holds the wealth also holds the power. Left and Right is completely meaningless here. It only serves to keep us fighting and at each others throats while we get screwed. And yet we act shocked when both benefit from more growth while the rest of us suffer even more. Even worse each side defends it's respective place master like some Stockholm Syndrome victim. When wealth was more spread out in years gone by, what was the nature of power at the so-called top as regards to national power? As wealth concentrated more, what happened to power? What was the state of families and local communities before wealth and power concentrated and what of it now? As I see it, there's a relationship here and this has been observed historically by many. By bringing power back locally which builds local autonomy, this actually begins to re-engage people because now they can see a more direct vested interest in such outcomes as you would want elections to have. The larger in scale something goes, the more disconnected and isolated it's members begin to sense and feel. Gov't, a business, an organization, a religion, take anything up in scale and the outcome of people are the same IMO. How do we feel at UPS as it relates to us and what the folks at 55 Glenlake think? That scale of isolation down to the human level is everywhere. Same is true for corruption and abuse. Criminals and psychopaths like the shadows and lack of transparency where they can't be seen. Fact is, they become more criminal as the wealth and power they hold grows. They see the rest of us as adversary and something to suppress in order to safeguard their own place. That's just one example of many that people might give pause and consideration too. There is no "one idea fixes all." This is why size and centralization fails. What works for me may well not work for you. Another idea may not work for either one of us. Centralization has always failed and always will. The solution is the freedom and liberty for each of us to seek our own solutions or work mutually with family, friends and neighbors to do the same. This is moving into the non aggression axiom that opposes force at all levels but that is a whole other matter as I said earlier. Time for work. Sleep tight! [/QUOTE]

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