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<blockquote data-quote="Doublestandards" data-source="post: 6109868" data-attributes="member: 110123"><p>In mid-2000,<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-:10-24" target="_blank">[24]</a><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-:7-25" target="_blank">[25]</a> Giuffre met <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghislaine_Maxwell" target="_blank">Ghislaine Maxwell</a> when working as a spa attendant at Donald Trump's private Mar-a-Lago club while reading a book about massage therapy.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-:2-19" target="_blank">[19]</a> Maxwell, a British socialite and daughter of the late media tycoon <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell" target="_blank">Robert Maxwell</a>, approached Giuffre, noted the book that she was reading, inquired about her interest in massage, and offered her a potential job working for Epstein as a traveling masseuse with the assurance that no experience was necessary.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-:2-19" target="_blank">[19]</a> When Giuffre arrived at Epstein's Palm Beach home, she says he was naked lying down and Maxwell told her how to massage him. "They seemed like nice people so I trusted them, and I told them I'd had a really hard time in my life up until then—I'd been a runaway, I'd been sexually abused, physically abused. ... That was the worst thing I could have told them because now they knew how vulnerable I was", Giuffre stated.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-bbc13/1/2022-20" target="_blank">[20]</a> Giuffre stated that after Maxwell introduced her to Jeffrey Epstein, the two quickly began <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_grooming" target="_blank">grooming</a> her to provide sexual services under the guise that she was to be trained as a professional massage therapist.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-miami_herald-26" target="_blank">[26]</a></p><p></p><p>Between 2000 and 2002, Giuffre was closely associated with Epstein and Maxwell, traveling between Epstein's residences in Palm Beach and Manhattan (at the <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_N._Straus_House" target="_blank">Herbert N. Straus House</a>), with additional trips to Epstein's Zorro ranch in New Mexico and private island <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Saint_James,_U.S._Virgin_Islands" target="_blank">Little Saint James</a>.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-27" target="_blank">[27]</a> In the <em>Miami Herald</em>'s investigative journalism series "Perversion of Justice", Giuffre describes her experiences of being trafficked by Epstein to provide massages and sexual services for him and a number of his business associates over a two-and-a-half-year period.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-28" target="_blank">[28]</a> In her interview with the <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC" target="_blank">BBC</a>, Giuffre said she was "passed around like a platter of fruit" to Epstein's powerful associates, and taken round the world on private jets.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-bbc13/1/2022-20" target="_blank">[20]</a></p><p></p><p>Of the instance in March<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-sanyatime-12" target="_blank">[12]</a> 2001 that Giuffre was allegedly trafficked to Prince Andrew, she stated in an interview that it was a "wicked" and "really scary time" in her life and that she "couldn't comprehend how in the highest level of the government powerful people were allowing this to happen. Not just allowing but participating in it".<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-29" target="_blank">[29]</a> After visiting a nightclub, Giuffre says Maxwell told her that she, "had to do for Andrew what I do for Jeffrey".<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-bbc13/1/2022-20" target="_blank">[20]</a> In court documents from a civil suit that were released from seal in 2019, Giuffre named several others that she claims Epstein and Maxwell instructed her to have sex with, including hedge fund manager <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Dubin" target="_blank">Glenn Dubin</a>, attorney <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Dershowitz" target="_blank">Alan Dershowitz</a>, politician <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Richardson" target="_blank">Bill Richardson</a>, the late MIT scientist <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Minsky" target="_blank">Marvin Minsky</a>, lawyer <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_J._Mitchell" target="_blank">George J. Mitchell</a>, and MC2 modeling agent <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_Brunel" target="_blank">Jean-Luc Brunel</a>.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-PBP-2019-30" target="_blank">[30]</a><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-:05-31" target="_blank">[31]</a> Many of the men denied Giuffre's allegations.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-PBP-2019-30" target="_blank">[30]</a><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-NPR-2020-32" target="_blank">[32]</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Doublestandards, post: 6109868, member: 110123"] In mid-2000,[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-:10-24'][24][/URL][URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-:7-25'][25][/URL] Giuffre met [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghislaine_Maxwell']Ghislaine Maxwell[/URL] when working as a spa attendant at Donald Trump's private Mar-a-Lago club while reading a book about massage therapy.[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-:2-19'][19][/URL] Maxwell, a British socialite and daughter of the late media tycoon [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell']Robert Maxwell[/URL], approached Giuffre, noted the book that she was reading, inquired about her interest in massage, and offered her a potential job working for Epstein as a traveling masseuse with the assurance that no experience was necessary.[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-:2-19'][19][/URL] When Giuffre arrived at Epstein's Palm Beach home, she says he was naked lying down and Maxwell told her how to massage him. "They seemed like nice people so I trusted them, and I told them I'd had a really hard time in my life up until then—I'd been a runaway, I'd been sexually abused, physically abused. ... That was the worst thing I could have told them because now they knew how vulnerable I was", Giuffre stated.[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-bbc13/1/2022-20'][20][/URL] Giuffre stated that after Maxwell introduced her to Jeffrey Epstein, the two quickly began [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_grooming']grooming[/URL] her to provide sexual services under the guise that she was to be trained as a professional massage therapist.[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-miami_herald-26'][26][/URL] Between 2000 and 2002, Giuffre was closely associated with Epstein and Maxwell, traveling between Epstein's residences in Palm Beach and Manhattan (at the [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_N._Straus_House']Herbert N. Straus House[/URL]), with additional trips to Epstein's Zorro ranch in New Mexico and private island [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Saint_James,_U.S._Virgin_Islands']Little Saint James[/URL].[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-27'][27][/URL] In the [I]Miami Herald[/I]'s investigative journalism series "Perversion of Justice", Giuffre describes her experiences of being trafficked by Epstein to provide massages and sexual services for him and a number of his business associates over a two-and-a-half-year period.[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-28'][28][/URL] In her interview with the [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC']BBC[/URL], Giuffre said she was "passed around like a platter of fruit" to Epstein's powerful associates, and taken round the world on private jets.[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-bbc13/1/2022-20'][20][/URL] Of the instance in March[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-sanyatime-12'][12][/URL] 2001 that Giuffre was allegedly trafficked to Prince Andrew, she stated in an interview that it was a "wicked" and "really scary time" in her life and that she "couldn't comprehend how in the highest level of the government powerful people were allowing this to happen. Not just allowing but participating in it".[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-29'][29][/URL] After visiting a nightclub, Giuffre says Maxwell told her that she, "had to do for Andrew what I do for Jeffrey".[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-bbc13/1/2022-20'][20][/URL] In court documents from a civil suit that were released from seal in 2019, Giuffre named several others that she claims Epstein and Maxwell instructed her to have sex with, including hedge fund manager [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Dubin']Glenn Dubin[/URL], attorney [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Dershowitz']Alan Dershowitz[/URL], politician [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Richardson']Bill Richardson[/URL], the late MIT scientist [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Minsky']Marvin Minsky[/URL], lawyer [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_J._Mitchell']George J. Mitchell[/URL], and MC2 modeling agent [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Luc_Brunel']Jean-Luc Brunel[/URL].[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-PBP-2019-30'][30][/URL][URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-:05-31'][31][/URL] Many of the men denied Giuffre's allegations.[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-PBP-2019-30'][30][/URL][URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre#cite_note-NPR-2020-32'][32][/URL] [/QUOTE]
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