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Message: <blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 5134931" data-attributes="member: 63706">This is circular logic. How can they possibly know if the vaccine caused death or not if they don't investigate?VAERS works by people reporting post vaccination symptoms that are on a list created by the manufacturers of side effects that were clearly higher in the experimental group than the control group. We know that Pfizer hid data concerning deaths during trials. Moderna eliminated people from trials, data and all, if they had severe reactions after the first shot.I'm not claiming It's a high percentage of vaccinated people suffering side effects. Due to the fact that there is risk, ethics requires there be a choice. I won't go into whether or not the vaccine might be more dangerous than covid, but that remains a possibility. If true, then vaccines should go.</blockquote>