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<blockquote data-quote="2029guy" data-source="post: 300730" data-attributes="member: 13424">I am a single unit MIP participant, however due to my grade level I get paid less than a driver even if you include the MIP. The reason I have not been very active lately is because I have been working such long hours that I have little free time, which is entirely due to poor or good project management depending on your point of view. If you put together a project plan that will require people to work 50 hour weeks because you don’t have to pay overtime then you are being a good project manager. If you put together a plan that requires 50 hour work weeks because you can’t perform accurate estimates that is an entirely different matter. Just because they call you a Manager does not make it so. The retail industry has been playing this game for years. They will say that you are an assistant store manager or a department manager pay you a set amount per week and require that you work ridiculous hours. When you calculate your hourly rate you find that you make as much or less than an hourly worker because they would have been paid time and a half or double time. I think that the definition of Management should be that you get paid as much or more than the highest paid hourly worker in the company.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </blockquote>

[QUOTE="2029guy, post: 300730, member: 13424"] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I am a single unit MIP participant, however due to my grade level I get paid less than a driver even if you include the MIP. The reason I have not been very active lately is because I have been working such long hours that I have little free time, which is entirely due to poor or good project management depending on your point of view. If you put together a project plan that will require people to work 50 hour weeks because you don’t have to pay overtime then you are being a good project manager. If you put together a plan that requires 50 hour work weeks because you can’t perform accurate estimates that is an entirely different matter. [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Just because they call you a Manager does not make it so. The retail industry has been playing this game for years. They will say that you are an assistant store manager or a department manager pay you a set amount per week and require that you work ridiculous hours. When you calculate your hourly rate you find that you make as much or less than an hourly worker because they would have been paid time and a half or double time. I think that the definition of Management should be that you get paid as much or more than the highest paid hourly worker in the company. [/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]

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