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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 1026019" data-attributes="member: 14668">We were not &quot;thrown into war&quot; under Bush.Under Bush, we invaded a nation (Iraq) that had nothing to do with the 9-11 attacks, that had never attacked the United States, and that possessed no weapons of mass detruction.Rather than actually paying for this uneccessary war through additional taxes (as we did during WWII), we cut taxes for the wealthy and then simply followed Bush&#039;s instructions to &quot;go on vacation&quot; and &quot;go to the mall&quot; while passing the entire cost of the war on to our grandchildren and great grandchildren in the form of debt.Rather than embarking upon a Manhattan Project-type mission to wean ourselves off of our addiction to Middle Eastern petroleum, we clung to our entitlement mentality for cheap gas and kept on producing huge, inefficent SUV&#039;s and trucks. Rather than encouraging the use of alternate fuels such as biodiesel, we imposed EPA restrictions that effectively banned hyper-efficient, biofuel-compatible cars such as the VW Lupo (80 MPG, available in Europe only)from the American market.If every American commuted to work in a vehicle that got 45 MPG, we wouldnt need to import ANY oil from the Middle East at all. We could bring our troops home, bring our money home, and disentangle ourselves from the unending turmoil.I want to know why it is that I can buy a Hummer that gets 7 MPG on gasoline made out of crude oil from the Persian Gulf, but I cant buy a VW Lupo that gets 80MPG on biodiesel made out of waste cooking oil from a potato chip factory in Oregon.I want to know why the American auto industry almost went bankrupt in the mid 2000&#039;s while at the same time there was a 6 month waiting list to buy a Toyota Prius or a diesel VW Jetta.I personally hope gasoline stays at $4 a gallon. If it were up to me, we would add an additional $2 &quot;deficit reduction/military support tax&quot; to each gallon of gasoline sold; that way, the people whose idea of &quot;supporting the troops&quot; consists of stickinig a yellow ribbon on their SUV would get to put their money where their mouth is every time they pulled up to the pump.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 1026019, member: 14668"] We were not "thrown into war" under Bush. Under Bush, we invaded a nation (Iraq) that had [I]nothing[/I] to do with the 9-11 attacks, that had [I]never[/I] attacked the United States, and that possessed [I]no[/I] weapons of mass detruction. Rather than actually [I]paying[/I] for this uneccessary war through additional taxes (as we did during WWII), we [I]cut[/I] taxes for the wealthy and then simply followed Bush's instructions to "go on vacation" and "go to the mall" while passing the [I]entire cost[/I] of the war on to our grandchildren and great grandchildren in the form of[I] debt[/I]. Rather than embarking upon a Manhattan Project-type mission to wean ourselves off of our addiction to Middle Eastern petroleum, we clung to our entitlement mentality for cheap gas and kept on producing huge, inefficent SUV's and trucks. Rather than [I]encouraging[/I] the use of alternate fuels such as biodiesel, we imposed EPA restrictions that effectively [I]banned[/I] hyper-efficient, biofuel-compatible cars such as the VW Lupo (80 MPG, available in Europe only)from the American market. If every American commuted to work in a vehicle that got 45 MPG, we wouldnt need to import ANY oil from the Middle East at all. We could bring our troops home, bring our money home, and disentangle ourselves from the unending turmoil. I want to know why it is that I can buy a Hummer that gets 7 MPG on gasoline made out of crude oil from the[I] Persian Gulf[/I], but I [I]cant[/I] buy a VW Lupo that gets 80MPG on biodiesel made out of waste cooking oil from a potato chip factory in [I]Oregon[/I]. I want to know why the American auto industry almost went bankrupt in the mid 2000's while at the same time there was a [I]6 month[/I] [I]waiting list[/I] to buy a Toyota Prius or a diesel VW Jetta. I personally hope gasoline [I]stays[/I] at $4 a gallon. If it were up to me, we would add an additional $2 "deficit reduction/military support tax" to each gallon of gasoline sold; that way, the people whose idea of "supporting the troops" consists of stickinig a yellow ribbon on their SUV would get to put their money where their mouth is every time they pulled up to the pump. [/QUOTE]

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