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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 1059570" data-attributes="member: 14668">Lets pretend for a moment that there is no such thing as man-made global warming.That does not change the fact that there is &quot;x&quot; amount of recoverable fossil fuel beneath the surface of this planet, and we have already consumed &quot;y&quot; of it. Every single day that passes decreases the difference between &quot;x&quot; and &quot;y&quot; by however many million of barrels of crude oil we choose to consume.The math is so brutally simple that even a right-wing Republican can grasp it. Once &quot;x&quot;=&quot;y&quot;, then its game over. No more fuel. Zip, zero,zilch, nada. We can &quot;drill here drill now&quot; all we want but once its gone its gone forever, and all the money on earth cant buy what no longer exists.So the question becomes this; do we continue using it up like there is no tomorrow and let our grandchildren or great grandchildren figure out how to keep an oil-dependent society functioning with no oil, or do we start conserving now so that the inevitable transition to an oil-free economy will be a smooth one? Remember that this is not a question of &quot;if&quot;, only a question of &quot;when.&quot;Global warming is a whole other issue entirely. Preventing global warming is a legitimate reason on its own to shift away from carbon-based energy sources, but even if you think its a bunch of mularkey you cannot escape the immutable fact that oil is a finite resource and that we probably owe it to future generations to at least try to save a little bit for them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 1059570, member: 14668"] Lets pretend for a moment that there is no such thing as man-made global warming. That does not change the fact that there is "[U][I]x[/I][/U]" amount of recoverable fossil fuel beneath the surface of this planet, and we have already consumed "[I]y[/I]" of it. Every single day that passes decreases the difference between "[U][I]x[/I][/U]" and "[I][U]y[/U][/I]" by however many million of barrels of crude oil we choose to consume. The math is so brutally simple that even a right-wing Republican can grasp it. Once "[U][I]x[/I][/U]"="[U]y[/U]", then its [I]game over[/I]. No more fuel. Zip, zero,zilch, nada. We can "drill here drill now" all we want but once its gone its gone [I]forever, [/I]and all the money on earth cant buy what no longer exists. So the question becomes this; do we continue using it up like there is no tomorrow and let our grandchildren or great grandchildren figure out how to keep an oil-dependent society functioning with no oil, or do we start conserving [I]now[/I] so that the inevitable transition to an oil-free economy will be a smooth one? Remember that this is not a question of "if", only a question of "when." Global warming is a whole other issue entirely. Preventing global warming is a legitimate reason on its own to shift away from carbon-based energy sources, but even if you think its a bunch of mularkey you [I]cannot[/I] escape the immutable fact that oil is a [I]finite resource[/I] and that we probably owe it to future generations to at least [I]try[/I] to save a little bit for them. [/QUOTE]

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