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<blockquote data-quote="BrownArmy" data-source="post: 1412915" data-attributes="member: 18225">That seems reductionist...I think it&#039;s more complex than that.There&#039;s not a single person that hates our planet, liberal, conservative, democrat or republican.However, the media in this country does us all a disservice.We are the only country in the world that is conflicted about &#039;climate change&#039;.it&#039;s 100% real, and the vast majority of scientists around the world agree.The climate is changing: not in dispute.What is in dispute is what percentage of human influence alters the calculus.That&#039;s a great conversation, except that it&#039;s more or less been settled.Scientists agree that us humans are tipping the scales with our CO2 burning, but there&#039;s &#039;a lot of dissenters&#039;...um, no, there actually aren&#039;t, this is settled science.The US media does us all a disservice by trying to present a &#039;balanced-view&#039;, i.e. let&#039;s give &#039;equal-weight&#039; to both sides of this argument.(It&#039;s not 50-50, it&#039;s 90-10, just saying).Our completely dysfunctional government system in the US has led to a complete and total paralysis in terms of dealing with this issue, which, IMHO is bigger than any terrorist threat.In a previous post, I said that it&#039;s likely too late.I think that&#039;s true, in the sense that we&#039;re not going to be able, as a global community, to get our collective &#039;chit&#039; together and address this problem head-on.But, again, don&#039;t worry, the scientists are obviously wrong!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BrownArmy, post: 1412915, member: 18225"] That seems reductionist... I think it's more complex than that. There's not a single person that hates our planet, liberal, conservative, democrat or republican. However, the media in this country does us all a disservice. We are the only country in the world that is conflicted about 'climate change'. it's 100% real, and the vast majority of scientists around the world agree. The climate is changing: not in dispute. What is in dispute is what percentage of human influence alters the calculus. That's a great conversation, except that it's more or less been settled. Scientists agree that us humans are tipping the scales with our CO2 burning, but there's 'a lot of dissenters'...um, no, there actually aren't, this is settled science. The US media does us all a disservice by trying to present a 'balanced-view', i.e. let's give 'equal-weight' to both sides of this argument. (It's not 50-50, it's 90-10, just saying). Our completely dysfunctional government system in the US has led to a complete and total paralysis in terms of dealing with this issue, which, IMHO is bigger than any terrorist threat. In a previous post, I said that it's likely too late. I think that's true, in the sense that we're not going to be able, as a global community, to get our collective 'chit' together and address this problem head-on. But, again, don't worry, the scientists are obviously wrong! [/QUOTE]

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