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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 584734" data-attributes="member: 2189">Seems from the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/18/health/policy/18plan.html" target="_blank">NY Times </a>that the idea of non-profit health co-ops are getting a little bit of airtime and that&#039;s a good thing. Thanks to Senator Conrad for putting this idea of longstanding on the table and instead of the gov&#039;t putting $6 bil in as grant/seed money to get one started, why not strip out all the law on the books that give the present system it&#039;s dominate or nearly monopoly status so that the economic playing field is level and then the best cream rises to the top.&nbsp;Funny we want gov&#039;t to re-write the labor law that does the same thing for UPS in regards to FedEx but we fail to grasp the cartel elsewhere.&nbsp;Just for the record, I asked my representatives to just abolish the standing labor laws entirely and then let UPS and FedEx compete head to head and then the IBT or whatever union can also try their best. Nobody has advantage, nobody has disadvantage.&nbsp; I had to send those letters on my own time and stamp because UPS won&#039;t condone that either.&nbsp; Imagine that!&nbsp;From a certain POV of my own self interest, the single payer plan (I know it&#039;s off the table, never really was there if truth be told) does have an advantage and for lots of employers it could have a possible unintended consequence. Many employees like myself who are not yet of age to get insurance benefits in retirement but at the same time have years at or very near major service thresholds that still pay pretty well might be tempted to move on down the road. In otherwords, you could leave right now on the monthly pension you have but the insurance is to some degree holding you in place. I&#039;d still work doing something else but that was my intent all along no matter what healthcare did. Single payer would just accelerate my plans out of UPS.&nbsp;If the gov&#039;t did put a single payer plan in place paid for by tax contributions and that no matter where you went you paid the tax and you got medical coverage, I honestly have to wonder at UPS how many of us would take the money and bolt for the door? I&#039;m betting a surprising number of folks, both hourly and management would be doing other things the first chance they got!&nbsp;That&#039;s called making lemonade out of lemons!<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very&nbsp; &nbsp; :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 584734, member: 2189"] Seems from the [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/18/health/policy/18plan.html"][COLOR=red]NY Times[/COLOR] [/URL]that the idea of non-profit health co-ops are getting a little bit of airtime and that's a good thing. Thanks to Senator Conrad for putting this idea of longstanding on the table and instead of the gov't putting $6 bil in as grant/seed money to get one started, why not strip out all the law on the books that give the present system it's dominate or nearly monopoly status so that the economic playing field is level and then the best cream rises to the top. Funny we want gov't to re-write the labor law that does the same thing for UPS in regards to FedEx but we fail to grasp the cartel elsewhere. Just for the record, I asked my representatives to just abolish the standing labor laws entirely and then let UPS and FedEx compete head to head and then the IBT or whatever union can also try their best. Nobody has advantage, nobody has disadvantage. I had to send those letters on my own time and stamp because UPS won't condone that either. Imagine that! From a certain POV of my own self interest, the single payer plan (I know it's off the table, never really was there if truth be told) does have an advantage and for lots of employers it could have a possible unintended consequence. Many employees like myself who are not yet of age to get insurance benefits in retirement but at the same time have years at or very near major service thresholds that still pay pretty well might be tempted to move on down the road. In otherwords, you could leave right now on the monthly pension you have but the insurance is to some degree holding you in place. I'd still work doing something else but that was my intent all along no matter what healthcare did. Single payer would just accelerate my plans out of UPS. If the gov't did put a single payer plan in place paid for by tax contributions and that no matter where you went you paid the tax and you got medical coverage, I honestly have to wonder at UPS how many of us would take the money and bolt for the door? I'm betting a surprising number of folks, both hourly and management would be doing other things the first chance they got! That's called making lemonade out of lemons! :happy-very: [/QUOTE]

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