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<blockquote data-quote="TechGrrl" data-source="post: 587519" data-attributes="member: 4932">I am not at all confident that anyone who is not one of the top tier elite can succeed at anything when success is rigged to insure that the insiders reap all the benefits, and the rest of us get to pay off the costs.&nbsp; The critical point to understand is that the &#039;big boys&#039; have socialized risk while privatizing reward.&nbsp; It&#039;s &quot;Heads they win, tails we lose.&quot;&nbsp; Sorry if you can&#039;t look at what has happened in the last 30 years and see the steady erosion of any opportunity for working class kids to make serious gains.When I started with UPS in 1974, I was a college student working for books and beans.&nbsp; My paycheck was good enough to allow me to pay all my tuition and bills at a decent private university on 25 hours of work a week.Now?&nbsp; Fat chance.&nbsp; Most kids couldn&#039;t pay for tuition at a state run school on 25 hours of work a week.&nbsp; My background is blue collar working class.&nbsp; I&#039;m a fiscal conservative, but I guess I am a social liberal. If it weren&#039;t for my support, my niece and nephew could never have made enough money to get a good schooling on what jobs are available today.I read Ayn Rand a lot, and much of what she says makes sense, but in practice in today&#039;s world, the little guys gets screwed on a regular basis, and there is nothing they can do about it.Except vote for people who believe that spending money on sending people to college and community colleges and technical schools is an investment, not a deficit.&nbsp; It&#039;s called &#039;return on investment&#039; when people are able to raise themselves up and pay taxes on their higher incomes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TechGrrl, post: 587519, member: 4932"] I am not at all confident that anyone who is not one of the top tier elite can succeed at anything when success is rigged to insure that the insiders reap all the benefits, and the rest of us get to pay off the costs. The critical point to understand is that the 'big boys' have socialized risk while privatizing reward. It's "Heads they win, tails we lose." Sorry if you can't look at what has happened in the last 30 years and see the steady erosion of any opportunity for working class kids to make serious gains. When I started with UPS in 1974, I was a college student working for books and beans. My paycheck was good enough to allow me to pay all my tuition and bills at a decent [U][B]private[/B][/U] university on 25 hours of work a week. Now? Fat chance. Most kids couldn't pay for tuition at a state run school on 25 hours of work a week. My background is blue collar working class. I'm a fiscal conservative, but I guess I am a social liberal. If it weren't for my support, my niece and nephew could never have made enough money to get a good schooling on what jobs are available today. I read Ayn Rand a lot, and much of what she says makes sense, but in practice in today's world, the little guys gets screwed on a regular basis, and there is nothing they can do about it. Except vote for people who believe that spending money on sending people to college and community colleges and technical schools is an investment, not a deficit. It's called 'return on investment' when people are able to raise themselves up and pay taxes on their higher incomes. [/QUOTE]

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