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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 610679" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Speaking for Atlanta, the first article is about dead on. Generally speaking, 7 to 10 days is typical. In my doctor's case, some of that may be driven by having the patient getting the blood work done first and having time to get back the results before the actual physical. More hard evidence to beat you up with about what you're eating and lifestyle.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /> However, I don't know how true that is elsewhere but it works and seems to make sense for me.</p><p></p><p>Just on a hunch, as boomers get older & needing more care, the load on the system at some point just in sheer volume will have to have some effect. Then again, the old adage of location, location, location comes into play. High retiree/older population area would seem the most to be impacted but that's just a guest. Even wait times are a mixed bag in Canada for example from people I talk too, outside this forum for the record.</p><p></p><p>Thanks to Truthdig, I did see where Bill Frist in effect <a href="http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/10/02/bill-frist-on-health-bill-id-vote-for-it/" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">endorsed </span></a>the current healthcare proposal by saying if he were still in the Senate, he'd vote for it and he knows he'd take heat too. Frist's support is no surprise as this current plan IMVHO is a big power grab by big PhARMA, certain large healthcare industry giants and certain insurance interests and nothing to do with good, honest, quality and most importantly, a transparent healthcare system. I'm against the potential ability of control mechanism of an all in one single payer system but it could be done only if the level of transparency was above board and the patient was allowed the doctor and method of his/her choice.</p><p></p><p>The current system, the so-called capitialist republicans under the guise of free market is a corp. protection rackett for a created cartel and is not about freedom or free choice at all. If the democrat or Obamacare as it's called does anything, it increases that corp. power, the very thing that got us where we are. I see it like a doctor killing a patient sufferng from extreme pain and then declaring himself a victourous champion as the patient is now pain free! That's JMO anyway and the reason I oppose because there's no reason to trust it! Without true transparency and everything on the table for all to see, how can we trust the gov't given it's track record and yes I think for both politicial sides that is a very fair question and the most ignored of them all by everyone IMO.</p><p></p><p>I don't think there's any illusion that something will get passed and the only real reason most republicans object is because it doesn't have the republican name on it. Case in point was when Gore raised the issue of Social Security and towards privatization (another cartelization power grab) in his re-inventing gov't and in 1998' Clinton broached the idea as well. The principled republicans however instead of seizing this opportunity to push towards privatization, something <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100620055426/http://objectivistcenter.org/cth--1548-The_Hidden_Danger_of_Social_Security_Privatization.aspx" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">some opposed</span></a> but not always for <span style="color: #ff0000"><a href="http://mises.org/article.aspx?Id=979" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">the more correct reasons</span></a><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></span>, decided instead to chase Monica's skirt on a potential powergrab and it seemed to work until 2006' and 2008' when the illusion of reality hit a wall!</p><p></p><p>Repubicans in the Bush era embraced just as equally <a href="http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/lawmaker-news/53457-ross-bush-not-obama-pioneered-socialized-medicine-in-us" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">socialized medicine</span> </a>and now they want to act (pretend with false face behind mask) almost like <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">anarcho-capitialist</span></a><span style="color: red">s</span>. Well, it sells good I guess for the WWE Smackdown we call American politics!</p><p></p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" /></p><p></p><p>The <a href="http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Senate+Leaders+White+House+Reach+Deal+Immigration+SC_36db2gHll.jpg" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">good guys/bad guys wrestlers</span> </a>backstage after fighting it out in the Royal Rumble. Gee I wonder what <span style="font-size: 9px">(who) </span><span style="font-size: 10px">they are laughing at?</span></p><p></p><p>What is Bill Frist up too these days?</p><p></p><p>Chairs executive board of Cressey and company</p><p></p><p>What do they do?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.cresseyco.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">source</span></a></p><p></p><p>A head partner of a major private healthcare investment firm endorses Obamacare? Hmmmmm. Follow the money!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 610679, member: 2189"] Speaking for Atlanta, the first article is about dead on. Generally speaking, 7 to 10 days is typical. In my doctor's case, some of that may be driven by having the patient getting the blood work done first and having time to get back the results before the actual physical. More hard evidence to beat you up with about what you're eating and lifestyle.:happy-very: However, I don't know how true that is elsewhere but it works and seems to make sense for me. Just on a hunch, as boomers get older & needing more care, the load on the system at some point just in sheer volume will have to have some effect. Then again, the old adage of location, location, location comes into play. High retiree/older population area would seem the most to be impacted but that's just a guest. Even wait times are a mixed bag in Canada for example from people I talk too, outside this forum for the record. Thanks to Truthdig, I did see where Bill Frist in effect [URL='http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2009/10/02/bill-frist-on-health-bill-id-vote-for-it/'][COLOR=red]endorsed [/COLOR][/URL]the current healthcare proposal by saying if he were still in the Senate, he'd vote for it and he knows he'd take heat too. Frist's support is no surprise as this current plan IMVHO is a big power grab by big PhARMA, certain large healthcare industry giants and certain insurance interests and nothing to do with good, honest, quality and most importantly, a transparent healthcare system. I'm against the potential ability of control mechanism of an all in one single payer system but it could be done only if the level of transparency was above board and the patient was allowed the doctor and method of his/her choice. The current system, the so-called capitialist republicans under the guise of free market is a corp. protection rackett for a created cartel and is not about freedom or free choice at all. If the democrat or Obamacare as it's called does anything, it increases that corp. power, the very thing that got us where we are. I see it like a doctor killing a patient sufferng from extreme pain and then declaring himself a victourous champion as the patient is now pain free! That's JMO anyway and the reason I oppose because there's no reason to trust it! Without true transparency and everything on the table for all to see, how can we trust the gov't given it's track record and yes I think for both politicial sides that is a very fair question and the most ignored of them all by everyone IMO. I don't think there's any illusion that something will get passed and the only real reason most republicans object is because it doesn't have the republican name on it. Case in point was when Gore raised the issue of Social Security and towards privatization (another cartelization power grab) in his re-inventing gov't and in 1998' Clinton broached the idea as well. The principled republicans however instead of seizing this opportunity to push towards privatization, something [URL='https://web.archive.org/web/20100620055426/http://objectivistcenter.org/cth--1548-The_Hidden_Danger_of_Social_Security_Privatization.aspx'][COLOR=red]some opposed[/COLOR][/URL] but not always for [COLOR=#ff0000][URL='http://mises.org/article.aspx?Id=979'][COLOR=red]the more correct reasons[/COLOR][/URL]:wink2:[/COLOR], decided instead to chase Monica's skirt on a potential powergrab and it seemed to work until 2006' and 2008' when the illusion of reality hit a wall! Repubicans in the Bush era embraced just as equally [URL='http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/lawmaker-news/53457-ross-bush-not-obama-pioneered-socialized-medicine-in-us'][COLOR=red]socialized medicine[/COLOR] [/URL]and now they want to act (pretend with false face behind mask) almost like [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism'][COLOR=red]anarcho-capitialist[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=red]s[/COLOR]. Well, it sells good I guess for the WWE Smackdown we call American politics! :wink2: The [URL='http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Senate+Leaders+White+House+Reach+Deal+Immigration+SC_36db2gHll.jpg'][COLOR=red]good guys/bad guys wrestlers[/COLOR] [/URL]backstage after fighting it out in the Royal Rumble. Gee I wonder what [SIZE=1](who) [/SIZE][SIZE=2]they are laughing at?[/SIZE] What is Bill Frist up too these days? Chairs executive board of Cressey and company What do they do? [URL='http://www.cresseyco.com/'][COLOR=red]source[/COLOR][/URL] A head partner of a major private healthcare investment firm endorses Obamacare? Hmmmmm. Follow the money! [/QUOTE]
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